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[Needles]

so, thats my celica, 1994 gts from canada, this car go in the road every day in the snow or anything, it got 280 000km 3sgte engine 103 000km


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[Needles]

modification done: vis xtreme front bumper, gt4 hood, gt4 rear block install, lhd hood lach, clear turn, (taking out the orange inside and make it clear) angel eye whit bi-xenon projector, hid low beam 6000k, side skirt from 90-93 celica body kit, (i cut it) blue interior led in dash and cluster, recaro mr2 turbo seat, and paint job soon







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[Needles]

and for the shifter




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[Needles]

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[chacha]

keep it up...

[Hanyo]

tell me more about your projector bi xenon projector lights

[Needles]

tell me more about your projector bi xenon projector lights

i bought it from someone who has get it in japan, about 2 month ago, he pay 350 cad for it, for the install, i had to make a big hole in the back of headlight and unglue the lens to fit the bi-xenon( to unglue it, just heat it up whit heat gun all aroung where the glue is, for 5 min, and slowly remove the lens whit screewdriver , u can leave the the glue there and heat it up back to put the lens back, or put new glue, ((nissan headlight glue ))heat it up back and put the lens back in, (i didnt took the glue off, ) ho and i paint the interior of the light in black plastic color, and i had leave the metal circle silver inside.i have a custom switch for the angel eye and i have to install the control for the light going on low and high beam (now its on high) the low and high beam is only one projector who is actually moving back or so to make more or less light

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[Needles]

the snow turning into water this morning...

where is my rear wing ??

should i paint my car or keep this paint and fix it ^^ what do u think ?

[Needles]

[Needles]

today new steering wheel

[mkernz22]

you dont have a crash bar installed?..

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[Needles]

i dont get many crash like you loool ! i will modify my crash bar soon i paint my car, i will have to cut it slim

[mkernz22]

im gunna laugh at you when you do now.

first one is because i lost control in a snow storm, second one is because i was avoiding something in a construction zone.


back on topic, I gotcha and that's a good idea.

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[Needles]

relocation of the cruise control after change to gt4 steering wheel...

this is the plug for airbag and cruise control, i had to burn it to reconnect the cable, cause its was 3-4 meter long ,roll inside the steering....there is enought room to put the cruise control there, but fit tight

[Needles]

i love my car more and more....whitout gt4 steering

whit new steering

[Needles]

made up my mind 4 or at worst 5 days.,,,,


This post has been edited by Needles: Jan 23, 2011 - 2:25 AM

[SupraKid]

You won't be able to do it in 3 days if your doing it by yourself. If you shooting for under 300 hp I'd stick with the s54. You need a s54 pressure plate, and either a s54 disk or a s54 splined 3sgte disk(dr tweak once said there is s very small difference and he uses s54 everything because of the cost). As for the fuel pump yes I'll need to upgrade,to either a gt4 pump or a walbro.


Look in the forced induction sticky area,there are quite a few 3sgte related topics.

[Needles]

problem solved

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[mak5603]

Dude...you have to do LOTS and LOTS of research. There is no one magical thread that tells you step by step what to do throughout an ENTIRE swap.

But if you search stickies, you will find many very informative and helpful threads and gain the knowledge to take on the job. You can't just go into something because you know it works and has been done, you have to know how to do it.

[Needles]

im going whit the 5s transmission 3sgte pressure plate and disk, 5sfe clutch ,


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[mkernz22]

do MOAR research!!!!!!!

you've been on here for 2 months, you need to research. i'm going to be researching over a period of 4 years (not needed though) but that's how long I'll be in college. and no, 3 days is not possibly for a one man crew, probably not even a 2 or 3 man crew unless they really know what they are doing. do not jump the gun because you will mess something up.

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[SupraKid]

if u look in the sticky forced induction threat u will not find how to swap ur engine... just one for the 2th gen 3sgte.... not the same thing, we should have a how to replace 5sfe whit 3sgte whit a transmission that for fwd , but its all custum, and all lead to some kind of problem, what is the best way ? get 3sgte front engine from gt4 whit ecu and put the lsd tranny from mr2 whit some spacer in the boots and get the engine mount st205 or gt4 for the transmiision ,extended the wire harness ,

and the 3sgte clutch ? what is a54 ? is it the 2.2l one ? supra kid, u mean i can keep all original component in the transmission if i use the 5sfe transmission ? i heard that one part dont fit, i need to know the exact part i need in my original 5sfe tranny to fit in bolt on to the 3sgtg3

Its 80% the EXACT same.

If you have researched at ALL you'd find that the 2nd and 3rd gens are physically the same to swap in, the only major difference with the 2nd gen swap is the wiring nightmare. I can see you seem to be getting POed and ill tell you if you blow up and attempt to tell off a member your gonna lose everyone's support and help, so id advise against that. Its nice to see you seem to have learned some grammar skills though.

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[Needles]

3sgte sooon


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[Needles]

i had change a supra 88 engine by my self 8 years ago took 6 month, so i learn... and i will do it in 3 day, whitout mistake and maybe i will do a threat how to put 3sgte the easy way on the gt, i will do thew wiring harnees begfore the swap, andd i already found all the wiring diagram from 5sfe to 3sgte 3th gen, i let you know how it gonna be

[SupraKid]

You have now rendered the last sentence in my last post untrue :\. What engine did you put in the mk3?Because unless its a jz engine its plug and play and a MUCH easier swap than a 3sgte swap. Are you going to be swapping alone or will you have other people helping you out? If your doing it alone look at at LEAST 4 solid days of swapping(if you know exactly what your doing and have 0 gremlins, both of which will not be true.)

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[Needles]

i will let u all know of my progress, all help is very appreciated , thanks

[mkernz22]

i had change a supra 88 engine by my self 8 years ago took 6 month, so i learn... and i will do it in 3 day, whitout mistake and maybe i will do a threat how to put 3sgte the easy way on the gt, i will do thew wiring harnees begfore the swap, andd i already found all the wiring diagram from 5sfe to 3sgte 3th gen, i let you know how it gonna be

just because you did 1 engine swap does not mean you learned anything. supras are different than celicas. different body, different wiring, different engine, pretty much different everything! you have no experience with this car. what if you mess the swap up? you're going to be car-less for more than 3 days. THERE IS NO EASY WAY TO SWAP A 3S INTO THE GT! do you not comprehend what we are telling you?

[SeverX13]

dude, its awesome you have a thread to show your progress and you want to swap and do allt hat cool stuff to your 6gc but seriously. do research. alot of it. talk to members who have swapped but use real legit questions. and look at build threads on 3sgte's.

[mkernz22]

lmao^

but searchsearchsearchsearchsearch!

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[Needles]

lmao^

but searchsearchsearchsearchsearch!

thats ok, i have already found all the info i need

[mkernz22]

alright then, i guess ill take your word for it....

[HectortheRican]

lmao^

but searchsearchsearchsearchsearch!

thats ok, i have already found all the info i need

Let us know when you start. I want to count the days.

[Needles]

lots and lots of very usefull info there http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/Technical.htm all about all modificatrion

[SeverX13]

lots and lots of very usefull info there http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/Technical.htm all about all modificatrion

lots and lots of very usefull information here too Ultimate Celica Resource

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[JuMPiiN]

I really wish there was a facepalm expression on here. Your not going to do it in 3 days with no gremlins ext, Just the wiring if you do it yourself will take a day.

Its cool that you love your car, made a progression thread, showed you mods which are neat and tasteful to say the least. But your not going to swap in 3 days. Heres basic math if your doing it alone

Day 1 - Pull old engine
Day 2 - do wiring, and maybe run new harness
Day 3 - Replace old worn out parts, broken parts, missing parts ext.
Day 4 - Put in engine, connect harness, exhaust, ext.
Day 5 - Try and start car and search for the gremlins that are going to be there.
Day 6 - get on here and ask whats wrong.

Thats just basic and thats if your spending your entire day doing it.

I know you said youve found everything you needed to know, but you havnt. you cant compare a supra swap to a celica swap. Goodluck and I'll be watching and counting the days.

[HectortheRican]

lots and lots of very usefull information here too Ultimate Celica Resource

LOL high five sir

[mkernz22]

lots and lots of very usefull information here too Ultimate Celica Resource

LOL high five sir

[Needles]

i just find a 4th gen 3sgte , its only 1500$ , if someone know if the transmission of my 5s will fit like it fit the 3th gen 3sgte, ^?



its ST215 GT-T


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[mkernz22]

You can find a 3rd gen 3sgte for the same price.
It's hard to find maintenance parts (well parts in general) for the 4th Gen or so I've heard.

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[JuMPiiN]

Dont buy from them or tiger japanese... word of advice.

[SupraKid]

The st215 3sgte in our cars is not a very smart move compared to the 3rd gen. Member _jim_ can ship a FULL 3rd gen 3sgte swap to you for $2100. And saying the 4th gen is 1500(shipped??) and you HAVE to have the harness done by a professional, you will NOT, i repeat, you will NOT be able to do that harness conversion yourself. Your looking at 2100$ alone right there.

Heres the 3sgte generation breakdowns:

1st gen-Useless, was in the st165 rally celica but compared to the other gens its useless
2nd gen- ST185 rally 5th gen celica-Different turbo and various parts,wiring is much harder than the 3rd gen, but all costs on this engine are cheaper(engine,parts,ect) with minimal power lose.
3rd gen-st205 6gc celica-Literally 6 wires to splice,highest HP #s for less about of money, documented swaps to hell and back
4th gen-st215 CADILINA-wiring NIGHTMARE,initial HP #s same as 3rd gen but MANY parts need upgraded to get the hp #s up. The wiring has never been documented because it is incredibly hard

If you'd like more in detail differences between the engines i know there's quite a few in depth replies about it. But yes all the 2nd,3rd and 4th (and possibly the 1st) are all physically the same the the mounts/tranny are the same.


I agree with the tiger imports, i've never heard a 100% good story come out of they're transactions.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jan 22, 2011 - 3:35 PM

[richee3]

1.) You put projectors behind frosted lenses in your headlights. You have COMPLETELY defied the purpose of both projector headlights AND frosted lenses. Hope you have night vision because you effectively have no high beams at all.

2.) I saw a music video once. Did I become Jimi Hendrix? Just because you've read a thread about the 3S swap doesn't mean you can do the 3S swap. So, unless you start heeding the advice from those of us who actually HAVE done the research, this project will come to a grinding halt. You'll mess your car up beyond repair and then you'll have to sell a Celica that doesn't run because it has no motor.

[Needles]

i get the engine here in mtl, i found almost 10 3sgte 3th gen here in montreal now, and the best deal i got they sell me the engine whit all and all the clutch assembly but whitout the tranny for 1400$ in very good shape, if i have the money i buy it today, and pick it up today !!! i hav e found 2 engine 2th gen 3sgte 1 for 800 and 1 for 900$....whitout tranny, just search jdm montreal , u have live listing on what they have in staock, no need shipping for me lol

1.) You put projectors behind frosted lenses in your headlights. You have COMPLETELY defied the purpose of both projector headlights AND frosted lenses. Hope you have night vision because you effectively have no high beams at all.

2.) I saw a music video once. Did I become Jimi Hendrix? Just because you've read a thread about the 3S swap doesn't mean you can do the 3S swap. So, unless you start heeding the advice from those of us who actually HAVE done the research, this project will come to a grinding halt. You'll mess your car up beyond repair and then you'll have to sell a Celica that doesn't run because it has no motor.

i caanot use hicg beam cauze its too much high for the other, they flash me....and the high beam is not bad, someday i will change the lens...

[SupraKid]

High beams are not made to use when other ppl are around, they are made to be used when your alone with no other cars(or lights) around, so you can see the deer (or moose where you are) before you hit them.


Goodluck with your swap and ill be awaiting your millions of questions and rants about how we didnt tell you so..


The lowest priced 3rd gen on jdm montreal is $2,000. If you were smart you would buy this:

http://www.jdm-online.com/jdm-engines/toyo...nt-clip-94.html

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[JuMPiiN]

If you pay 1500 for that your crazy...... seriously by all means dont buy from that company or tiger.... there always the cheapest, they dont take care of there engines, ext ext ext..... there that cheap bc there not taken care of. Buy from someone or some respectable company.

[Needles]

If you pay 1500 for that your crazy...... seriously by all means dont buy from that company or tiger.... there always the cheapest, they dont take care of there engines, ext ext ext..... there that cheap bc there not taken care of. Buy from someone or some respectable company.

ur 100% right, i heard today that they drop 1 engine from the top plate to the floor and they put it back on the plate

[Needles]

this one is 1500$,its from JDM NAGOYA they have it in stock in montreaL, they will sold it to me whitout tranny, for 1400$ , here is the spec
Description
Used 94-97 JDM Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 3SGTE 245HP Engine Swap.

Motor, 5 Speed AWD Transmission, Un-Cut Wiring Harness and ECU.

The approximate mileage on this engine/transmission is between 25K-35K miles.
The motor/transmission comes with the following:

•Complete Motor Block and Head
•5 Speed Manual Transmission AWD----i dont buy it (but they let me the clutch assembly)

•Un-Cut Engine Wiring Harness
•Engine Control Unit (ECU)
•Igniter Chip
•Fuse Box

•Intake Manifold
•Exhaust Manifold
•Turbo Charger
•Turbo Manifold
•Top Mount Intercooler

•Injectors
•Fuel Rail
•Distributor
•Power Steering Pump
•A/C Compressor
•Alternator
•Clutch Assembly (Clutch Disc, Flywheel, Pressure Plate)
•Stainless Steel Down Pipe
•Un-Cut Cable Shifter

•Everything shown in pictures



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[Needles]

there is total cost i spend on my car since i got it, just let u know all that is my 5th celica , i did have 1987 gts , one 1990 gt red, one 1990 gts blue, one gts black 1991, and my 1994 gts,

1300$ the caR
APPROX 200$ ON THE BODY (RUST ON THE rocker each side, )
floor is 100% cleaN (DUE TO OIL LEAK LOL )
NEW FRONT DISK AND BRAKE ALREADY ON
new boot (100$)
steering !))100$
seat recaro 180$
refurnish seat stuff (120$
rear wing block 100$
hood gt4 300$
front vis gt4 thunder 520$ (shipping and c ustomer bull**** price,,,original for 188$)
new tire
new shifter knob short shifter
repair antenna fix
and fix a llot of thing on engine (tune up) to make it run 100% good (trhottle etc)
had change the cover valve gasket 27$
had change the seal behind the timing belt (big big job) 30$
new wiper 60$
new exhaust (all the systhem)
change fuel line (rust on it) 60$
chANGE BRAKE LINE(RUST) they broke on road) 40$
and lots more to come whit the 3sgte soooon ,
new spak polug cable 90$
bi xenon angel 170$ (deal)
hid 150$
blue led dash+led int 60$
flasher 96+ 30$
blue led flasher 15$



time on car ......priceless !!

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[mkernz22]

that W2A in the picture you posted looks f*cked.
have fun getting a new one for a couple hundred.

[Needles]

snowy day....


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[Needles]

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[Needles]

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[Needles]

todaY's works, took me 1 hours


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[Needles]

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sorry for the bad quelity of picture ,

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[cjh4l22]

dude are you typing all of this from a cell phone? or have you misplaced your "del" or "backspace" keys?
its 3RD gen, not 3th gen.
quality not quelity
replacing the oil seal is not nearly as big a job as a motor swap.
how did an OIL leak (literally like the dirtiest thing to clean, ever) give you a clean floor?
that rear bumper is ... yea
and you didn't need them to send you the entire steering column for only a steering wheel. they detach.
x2 on the bi-xenon/HID upgrade you did with your original headlight glass

and there is NO-way you'll swap that quick. and if you say so, then prove it. i've been working on my 2nd gen 3sgte swap for a year and its still not done because of alll kinds of random issues that popped up. and my motor was already fully built, not a "good one" picked from 1000's imported from japan.


but good luck to ya, seriously.

[Needles]

dude are you typing all of this from a cell phone? or have you misplaced your "del" or "backspace" keys?
its 3RD gen, not 3th gen.
quality not quelity
replacing the oil seal is not nearly as big a job as a motor swap.
how did an OIL leak (literally like the dirtiest thing to clean, ever) give you a clean floor?
that rear bumper is ... yea
and you didn't need them to send you the entire steering column for only a steering wheel. they detach.
x2 on the bi-xenon/HID upgrade you did with your original headlight glass

and there is NO-way you'll swap that quick. and if you say so, then prove it. i've been working on my 2nd gen 3sgte swap for a year and its still not done because of alll kinds of random issues that popped up. and my motor was already fully built, not a "good one" picked from 1000's imported from japan.


but good luck to ya, seriously.

i dont order piece, i just go buy them in store, i dindt order the steering, and sorry for my non delete style, cauze my english is bad cauze im french,
oil leak on the shaft make splash everywhere,


rear bumber i think of cutting the side and fix it on the original
how the hell is taking u a year to do the swap, anyway
im gonna have my mecanic friend and we already have setup to do it in 3 or 4 days,

he race in professionnal bike racing , he tune and built is own bike and get the podium more often than any others, he got about 10 toyota supra and porsche had ask him to work for them, but he will do the swap whit me for free (he is my old friend) its gonna take time before i get the custom exhaust and maybe the fuel pump but soon i have all the part, nothing gonna stop me , bigger wire for fuel pump, nice weld relay, wiring harness modif welded, plkug for intercooler hybrid clutch etc etc etc...stop ppl thinking i dunno nothing about it thats anoying

i will put pic and step by step for the install , but i dont have my engine before a couple of week..... i wait

but thanks for the ggod luck

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[whatthe]

I really want to see this modified front bumper to a rear bumper. Would be mad fun driving in reverse.

[Needles]

I really want to see this modified front bumper to a rear bumper. Would be mad fun driving in reverse.

hahaha yeah really lol

[delusionz]

Looks like everyones hating on you for looking into getting boosted, haha jealous much?

The W2A in that pic is fine, those scratches ontop are just on the sticker. you can peel the sticker off and order a new one for a couple bucks, no need to replace the whole thing.

[SeverX13]

Looks like everyones hating on you for looking into getting boosted, haha jealous much?

The W2A in that pic is fine, those scratches ontop are just on the sticker. you can peel the sticker off and order a new one for a couple bucks, no need to replace the whole thing.

not hating because hes boosted. why would someone already boosted or swaped be jealous. most of us who are "hating" have been through it or done a swap before. any who. we arent hating. we are saying for him never havin experience with a 3s swap before it will not take him 3 or 4 days. little problems always arise. i had "plans" to boost my car in 5 days. ended up being 2 weeks.

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[Needles]

workin on seat , after changing my mind, i will put leather...




This post has been edited by Needles: Mar 20, 2011 - 10:04 PM

[Needles]

i just found my swap !
i had 2 choices:

1- 3sgte st205 engine whit all wiring and stuff
mr2 lsd transmission rebuilt never run whit inner mr2 shaft and outter celica shaft
3" exhaust custom
st205 radiator
brand new walbro fuel pump 255lph

2000 $

2-3sgte st205 engine whit all wiring and stuff
original 5sfe trasmission already hybrid clutch
3" exhaust custom
st205 radiator
brand new walbro fuel pump 255lph

1400$

because i dont have enough money and dont want spend too much in the swap, i will go whit choices number 2, soon i start the project i will put a progress for u all can see if i can do it in 3 day, its not that much complex, after the wiring extend done..

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[Needles]

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to be continued...

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[HectortheRican]

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to be continued...

Oh my god

Shut your ****ing face, uncle ****er...

[Needles]

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to be continued....

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[mkernz22]

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to be continued....

dont be a dick dude.

[Needles]

hey ! im just joking

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[HectortheRican]

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to be continued....

dont be a dick dude.

Bahahahahah Mike xD Don't worry, I thought it was funny, he actually took the time to make the picture

[Needles]

last week another bad driver push the brake and slide on me, i had to go between 2 car to avoid collision, but the space was so thin that my passaenger mirror broke up, i was wondering if i can fix it....


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This post has been edited by Needles: Mar 20, 2011 - 10:05 PM

[Needles]

finnally, i will receive my 3sgte and stuff in 7 days !
the one who sell it to me had never installed it since he buy the front clip last summer, but he did start the engine and he say its all fine,
and i really wonder what the exhaust gonna look in my car because he said that the rear of it pass in the exterior of the rear arm..... its that too low ?
its 3" custom

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[SupraKid]

Are you f*cking 4 years old?

[mmmchocolate]

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lol!

he isnt 4 years old.

he has a sense of humor.

[Needles]

question plz, since the ecu is in middle of the car in the console, should it be easyer to just do one hole in the firewall to pass the wiring harness however than extend it ?

[mkernz22]

what ever you feel more comfortable with. I'd rather extend the wiring rather than cut another hole in the firewall

[Needles]

3sgte for sunday...... i just talk to my good friend who gonna sell me the stuff, he s gonna let me the mr2 tranny brand new rebuilt whit mr2 and st185 shaft, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! FOR 400$ MORE !!!! thanks to toyota11 [url="http://toyota11.monchar.com/"]http://toyota11.monchar.com/[/url

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[Needles]

.......



........finally, i will not put the mr2 transmission, reason is:

-need st205 support for transmission (i dont have)
-need st205 cable (dont have)
-need new cluster gauge to fit
-and the worst, is that transmission, toyota11 say to me in 5th gears he goes 120km/h at like 4000 /4200 rpm !!


even if the the e153 have better clutch, and bigger shaft, and lsd, i think i will save myself from a lot of trouble ,
i will buy a performance clucht for s54,


what is yours suggestion , what kind of clutch is the best,? i dont want to go more than 300hp in the future .

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[enderswift]

im pretty sure the e153 has taller gears

[cjh4l22]

im pretty sure the e153 has taller gears

I 2nd that. if you put them in an online gear ratio and hp calculator. its more like 3k at 70mph and 4k at 85mph

plus you don't need a new cluster for the e153 transmission...
the other info is correct though.

[Needles]

i got the beast !


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the engine is in very good condition, it is stunning
the radiator is brand new


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one piece exhaust , 3inch, whit 3inch downpipe i need modified ( i have all the connection, just need weld


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totally brand new rebuilt mr2 tranny, whit st185 outter mr2 inner and spacer


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walbro fuel pump


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[Needles]

ho yeah and 2 custom mount for the tranny came whit it, and there is some better pic, (of my dirty car)


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and for the last time, the 2.2l


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[chacha]

fitment look ok...but you still got small gaps in the headlamp bottom portion and the top of the nose.

[Needles]

i got the beast !


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the engine is in very good condition, it is stunning
the radiator is brand new


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totally brand new rebuilt mr2 tranny, whit st185 outter mr2 inner and spacer


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does someone know how much horsepower the downpipe and 3" exhaust give on stock 3sgte ?

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[Needles]

fitment look ok...but you still got small gaps in the headlamp bottom portion and the top of the nose.

i cannot see what u mean... sorry im blind, could u show me mark where the gap is... or maybe in the upper, between the hood there is some gap, but that is normal

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[delusionz]

No two 3S-GTE motors are the same, but depending on the boost level you're running and the condition of the motor & turbo internally, you could achieve anywhere from 180hp to 300hp at the treads

[Needles]

today i have put the 3" exhaust and apexi muffler i got. i was on the go to put the 3sgte next week, so i wanted to do some job before i start the swap, cauze im using the car now. so after i fit the exhaust,there was a gap between manifold and exhaust on the stock 2.2l engine like 7 inch approx, i had 2 old exhaust , so i cut the tip that connect to manifold on the 2 exhaust, joined together and that make the missing link needed, til next week (i have 3" downpipe to custom it to fit the one from the st185 i think , custom one...) so, it small mouth whit big big ass lol, the sound is really like it got base sound , at 3k rpm its too loud, at 4k rpm its the best sound i ever heard, no base at 4k, am asking myself if i need another resonator or change the big big apexi muffler , anyway, everybody looked at my caR today (i work on the delivery whit it) and 3 wanted to race, bmw 2011, volvo 06-07 modified turbo , and some others....oooo man i need my engine in !!!! i was just not ready for the challenge lol. and at the little store someone say to me, hey{ u have a nice car, what is it ? and he was really impress by it, he ask to check it out and the store keeper want to check it too lol, and he show me is car on is i-phone, he did have a 2007 porsche twin turbo 3.8 v6, i was happy to know when u have a porsche like this u still have interest in a 1994 celica lol. but bad news anyway, when i changed my exhaust i saw my cross member is failing at the left tab, the tab ok but the cross member is crack there. and i hear knock tok tlok not tok when i turn left at certain speed, **** !i need new cross member before the swap......

This post has been edited by Needles: Mar 23, 2011 - 7:45 PM

[brenton1919]

The st215 3sgte in our cars is not a very smart move compared to the 3rd gen. Member _jim_ can ship a FULL 3rd gen 3sgte swap to you for $2100. And saying the 4th gen is 1500(shipped??) and you HAVE to have the harness done by a professional, you will NOT, i repeat, you will NOT be able to do that harness conversion yourself. Your looking at 2100$ alone right there.

Heres the 3sgte generation breakdowns:

1st gen-Useless, was in the st165 rally celica but compared to the other gens its useless
2nd gen- ST185 rally 5th gen celica-Different turbo and various parts,wiring is much harder than the 3rd gen, but all costs on this engine are cheaper(engine,parts,ect) with minimal power lose.
3rd gen-st205 6gc celica-Literally 6 wires to splice,highest HP #s for less about of money, documented swaps to hell and back
4th gen-st215 CADILINA-wiring NIGHTMARE,initial HP #s same as 3rd gen but MANY parts need upgraded to get the hp #s up. The wiring has never been documented because it is incredibly hard

If you'd like more in detail differences between the engines i know there's quite a few in depth replies about it. But yes all the 2nd,3rd and 4th (and possibly the 1st) are all physically the same the the mounts/tranny are the same.


I agree with the tiger imports, i've never heard a 100% good story come out of they're transactions.

umm i have a caldina engine i paid 1200 for it and dr tweak does the wireharness for 580 flat there is nothin different about this engine but that umm idk maybe that its not as old as the 3sgte st205 it drop's right in u can use most of the parts off of the st205 only thing that is different is that it has c.o.p's im so tired of hearing people talk bad about this engine if u ask me i think yall are just to cheap to buy a caldina .... and the bad thing is .. is that if u already have a gt celica all you have to do is drop the engine in change the flywheel and clutch and send your wire harness to tweak if u can get one for 1500 your going to spend like 2500 total on the swap if u do it your self wowwww that cost sooooooooooooo muchhhhh and u got 20 more hp for 400 bucks please learnnnn your info before u talk ish and u cant even tell me anything i dont know because i have a caldina and have already done this swap so i know what it takes and what it doesn't

[Needles]

picture of my new muffler , i just put a cylinder rubber inside the tip to make less base sound , it should be half inch smaller,


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[Needles]

i just got brand new front cross member suspension assembly/k pic tommorow

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[Needles]

i just start my swap yesterday at 8:00h pm. so my mom boyfriend just finish installing his big car lift in the garage and im the first one working on it i stoped at 1am , so i just need to unplug ecu and unbolt the 4 mount, everything else is done, i hope finish it before thuesday... i will put pic later, thanks to all 6gc member for ALL the info and to make this project possible

[Needles]

second day,. i worked all day long ,
starting by onbolt the engine and tranny mount and pull out the 5sfe


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now i had some problem since the bolt on the reart mount are striped so no rear mount for now
when i move the shifter its weird, but it seem to work (gt cable)

i have choose to extend the wiring engine to the computer, i will do that tommorow

[Needles]

i have some question, plz can someone answer it ?
those should be easy to anwser for any who did the swap

so

question#1 where does this fuel line goes ?



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question#2 where u plug this plastic bottle (the bottom of it)


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question #3 where do i plug that line ?



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question #4 how u setup this to this to this ?? plz


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question #5 where is the plug for this (lead prestone to the chargercooler) smic)






question# 6
where does that one goes ?


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questin #7 and finally this one , i dont know where it goes ?


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thank for any help

This post has been edited by Needles: Mar 29, 2011 - 11:51 PM

[Needles]

all nproblem fixed,
thanks for help, im waiting tonight my friend will extend my wiring, everything is on place

THANKS to pressure2 , he anwser it all in turbo forum

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[Needles]

today i just finish fixing everything, but when i tried to start the car , it does notting, no crank, i only have power to my light , someone else did had this problem before ? ?

[mkernz22]

it's called research man.

[brenton1919]

today i just finish fixing everything, but when i tried to start the car , it does notting, no crank, i only have power to my light , someone else did had this problem before ? ?

send your harness to tweak i bet its wired wrong ?

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i think the wiring is good
i will try this tommorow: from what i can tell with the wiring

the 205 starter relay runs its power through the 7.5a ST fuse where as on the 204 it gets directed through the 7.5a IGN fuse. I jumped that so now when i turn the key it opens the relay for the starter and the starter goes on.

so when you turn the key to the position that the car would normally run in the starter stays on? The other relay box that sits up near the rad holds the intercooler pump relay, fuel pump relay and dimmer relay. Also the fuses for the left and right high beams. What is the current problem? Because there is nothing in this box that should give you trouble with the starter circuit.

You can wire around it, I think... look at the diagrams and fake it. You will have to wire your fuel pump to recieve full voltage all the time (getting rid of the fuel pump resistor).

At this point, you should be able to start your car with the B+ and FP pins jumpered in the diagnostics connector in the engine bay.

[brenton1919]

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i think the wiring is good
i will try this tommorow: from what i can tell with the wiring

the 205 starter relay runs its power through the 7.5a ST fuse where as on the 204 it gets directed through the 7.5a IGN fuse. I jumped that so now when i turn the key it opens the relay for the starter and the starter goes on.

so when you turn the key to the position that the car would normally run in the starter stays on? The other relay box that sits up near the rad holds the intercooler pump relay, fuel pump relay and dimmer relay. Also the fuses for the left and right high beams. What is the current problem? Because there is nothing in this box that should give you trouble with the starter circuit.

You can wire around it, I think... look at the diagrams and fake it. You will have to wire your fuel pump to recieve full voltage all the time (getting rid of the fuel pump resistor).

At this point, you should be able to start your car with the B+ and FP pins jumpered in the diagnostics connector in the engine bay.

I know for a fact that there is more than making your wires longer for the st205 there are sum other wires that need to be moved and stuff i watch the guys do it from ATS but i cant remember wat wires they were so long ago lol but i hope u gett it working because i know ATSRACING will charge u around 2500 to 3000 to fix your wires and tweak well lol lets just say i tried to do my caldina harness by my self lol yeah i had to pay him a 1000 dollars to fix it lol so i really hope u get it working if would have just sent them to tweak from the start yyou would have been lookin at like 5 something but noww whooo knowwwwssss lol but i dont know to much about st205's but if you ever get a caldina i got u i know alot about the caldina engines

[Needles]

850 hp pikes peaK celica 4x4 video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5WfSZBPosI...feature=related