question on a short shifter, short shifter creation |
question on a short shifter, short shifter creation |
Jan 7, 2011 - 7:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '11 From Mena, AR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
if you remove the stock shifter and cut the bottom rod and weld in a spacer to the rod and compensate for the extension on the plastic seat the shifter sits in will it function just like a short shifter?
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Jan 7, 2011 - 9:00 PM |
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Jan 7, 2011 - 9:02 PM |
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Jan 8, 2011 - 11:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
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Jan 8, 2011 - 12:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '11 From Mena, AR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea... saw that. it dont answer my question. -------------------- I went full retard once, too. Its OK.
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Jan 8, 2011 - 12:56 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
I want something clarified. You want to cut the rod off, as that how-to says. I understand that. But are you wanting to put spacers beneath the plastic assembly that the rod sits in to raise it up, more like a true short shifter? Turning what you have now into this?
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Jan 8, 2011 - 1:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '05 From Kansas City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
From how I understand, yes it will function like a quick shifter. The longer arm below the pivot will take less distance to get in gear, and you'll need spacers to give it clearance. But why go to all the bother cutting and welding and such when you can just buy a shifter for $15-20 shipped?
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Jan 8, 2011 - 1:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '11 From Mena, AR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I want something clarified. You want to cut the rod off, as that how-to says. I understand that. But are you wanting to put spacers beneath the plastic assembly that the rod sits in to raise it up, more like a true short shifter? Turning what you have now into this? From how I understand, yes it will function like a quick shifter. The longer arm below the pivot will take less distance to get in gear, and you'll need spacers to give it clearance. But why go to all the bother cutting and welding and such when you can just buy a shifter for $15-20 shipped? yes richee thats what im going for, but i havent found any short shifters for a decent price and thank you blu94GT, and please insert the link to the website where i can order a short shifter for 15 bucks cuz the absolute cheapest one ive found was over 80 dollars and i wouldnt put the brand in my worst enemy's car cuz its cheap crap. and i'm at home in a machine shop so its no trouble to cut and weld. one more question though, do i have to lengthen the short bar that sticks out of the pivot ball to allow relative horizontal movement? (the bar that controls wiggling the shifter side to side for instance to go from first to reverse) I want something clarified. You want to cut the rod off, as that how-to says. I understand that. But are you wanting to put spacers beneath the plastic assembly that the rod sits in to raise it up, more like a true short shifter? Turning what you have now into this? From how I understand, yes it will function like a quick shifter. The longer arm below the pivot will take less distance to get in gear, and you'll need spacers to give it clearance. But why go to all the bother cutting and welding and such when you can just buy a shifter for $15-20 shipped? yes richee thats what im going for, but i havent found any short shifters for a decent price and thank you blu94GT, and please insert the link to the website where i can order a short shifter for 15 bucks cuz the absolute cheapest one ive found was over 80 dollars and i wouldnt put the brand in my worst enemy's car cuz its cheap crap. and i'm at home in a machine shop so its no trouble to cut and weld. one more question though, do i have to lengthen the short bar that sticks out of the pivot ball to allow relative horizontal movement? (the bar that controls wiggling the shifter side to side for instance to go from first to reverse) forgive me im quick to reply before studying the picture richee, i see the website now -------------------- I went full retard once, too. Its OK.
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Jan 8, 2011 - 1:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
The 7th gen short shifter and spacers work just fine, there are numerous threads on it, here is the shifter short shifter, 26 bucks and your done
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Jan 8, 2011 - 1:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '11 From Mena, AR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The 7th gen short shifter and spacers work just fine, there are numerous threads on it, here is the shifter short shifter, 26 bucks and your done just how sure are you that it will work cuz ebay says it won't work with my car and trim style -------------------- I went full retard once, too. Its OK.
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Jan 8, 2011 - 1:53 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Several members have fitted the 7th gen Celica short shifter in our 6th gens. But there are numerous complaints that it rubs on the E-brake handle because our shifter has a curve in it and the 7th gen is straight. Personally, I'm curious how your idea will turn out. Worst case scenario, you end up with exactly what the 6gc how-to has.
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Jan 8, 2011 - 2:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '11 From Mena, AR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Several members have fitted the 7th gen Celica short shifter in our 6th gens. But there are numerous complaints that it rubs on the E-brake handle because our shifter has a curve in it and the 7th gen is straight. Personally, I'm curious how your idea will turn out. Worst case scenario, you end up with exactly what the 6gc how-to has. yea thats what i was thinking. i figured worst case i could just reverse what i did and go back to the stock crap till i get back on my feet financially. but im addicted to doing stuff like that, stuff being modifying the car on a serious budget. and if i were to have rubbing problems, as i mentioned before, i'm handy to have around a machine shop i can just give it the ole heat 'n' bend treatment but everybody that was helpful gets a free bump... -------------------- I went full retard once, too. Its OK.
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Jan 12, 2011 - 5:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '05 From Guam Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
Several members have fitted the 7th gen Celica short shifter in our 6th gens. But there are numerous complaints that it rubs on the E-brake handle because our shifter has a curve in it and the 7th gen is straight. Personally, I'm curious how your idea will turn out. Worst case scenario, you end up with exactly what the 6gc how-to has. I dont know what happened to their 7gc install, it is nowhere rubbing. In fact I worried about the bend as well but there is nothing to worry about mine came out centered in the shift boot. I just bought any 7gc short shifter, it may be their installation or even a universal product that can fit it. This post has been edited by trdproven: Jan 12, 2011 - 5:11 AM -------------------- 94 Celica GT
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Jan 12, 2011 - 9:05 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
What will the brass shifter bearings do for me in terms of shift feel? Because I'm thinking about getting the 7gc shifter and the brass bearings as well that way I can do it all at once.
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Jan 12, 2011 - 10:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) |
you have the riser bushings replaced with the shifter which gives it a tigher feel, and then the brass bushings where it connects to the transmission, i have both and the feel is amazing, you will never miss another gear
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Jan 12, 2011 - 10:16 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
you have the riser bushings replaced with the shifter which gives it a tigher feel, and then the brass bushings where it connects to the transmission, i have both and the feel is amazing, you will never miss another gear Is there a quick how to somewhere for the brass bushings? And does your 7gc short shifter rub on your e-brake? -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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Jan 12, 2011 - 10:26 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
i have the 7gc short shifter installed and for the brief moments i got to drive my new celi before tearing the bad engine out, i didn't notice any rubbing whatsoever.
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Jan 12, 2011 - 11:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) |
Yeah, I'm definitely doing this. Such a cheap mod.
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Jan 12, 2011 - 5:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '11 From Mena, AR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you have the riser bushings replaced with the shifter which gives it a tigher feel, and then the brass bushings where it connects to the transmission, i have both and the feel is amazing, you will never miss another gear Is there a quick how to somewhere for the brass bushings? And does your 7gc short shifter rub on your e-brake? id like to see the how to -------------------- I went full retard once, too. Its OK.
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Jan 12, 2011 - 5:49 PM |
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Guys, it isn't hard. Go into your engine bay, pop the shift cables off the transmission one at a time (so you don't somehow find a way to cross them), gut the bushing in the cable end, install brass bushing and the c-clip, and put it back on the transmission.
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