3sgte in New england Options

[Cevax]

Just a quick question, is there any shop in the northeast area that has experience with a 3sgte swap. I want to pretty much buy a shell and dump it somewhere and have a motor swapped in as painless as possible.

[mkernz22]

Just a quick question, is there any shop in the northeast area that has experience with a 3sgte swap. I want to pretty much buy a shell and dump it somewhere and have a motor swapped in as painless as possible.

Buy pipes car man, it's a 3sgte RHD AWD swap. I'm hoping it goes to a good owner
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/2161542617.html

This post has been edited by mkernz22: Jan 16, 2011 - 12:02 PM

[Cevax]

I would but I am recovering from a failed build so I dont have the funds to put 5500 towards it. Unless he wants to be a good guy and let me pay a grand a month for it until its paid off

I put 10 grand into my honda but was severly screwed by the machine shop. They ruined my block I then brought it to another shop and rebuilt it but I overlooked that they also ruined my head. I cant do it no more, going back to toyota

Trying to part it out to get funds to start another project

This post has been edited by Cevax: Jan 16, 2011 - 12:14 PM

[mkernz22]

Wow, that really sucks man
Hope things turn out a lot better for you with the Celica!
Try contacting him and talking to him about it, wouldn't hurt at all

[Cevax]

Wow, that really sucks man
Hope things turn out a lot better for you with the Celica!
Try contacting him and talking to him about it, wouldn't hurt at all

Lol im sure here doesnt want to hear it.

[Cevax]

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/2113277256.html

I have tried contacting him see what hee says

[mkernz22]

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/2113277256.html

I have tried contacting him see what hee says

He already sold it, it was in the FS thread on here

[Cevax]

aww damn, well pipes wanna be a nice guy lol

I will continue my partout and keep an eye out.

[richee3]

I know of a couple of shops in the NE that are pretty familiar with the 3S swap. Namely, one "JDM Guy Garage." Some guy named Manny or something like that... I'm kidding, but seriously, you might talk to presure2. I've talked to him before and he told me that he would swap my car for a fee. Considering he can get it done, start to finish, in two days with no issues, it's well worth what he charges.

[Cevax]

I know of a couple of shops in the NE that are pretty familiar with the 3S swap. Namely, one "JDM Guy Garage." Some guy named Manny or something like that... I'm kidding, but seriously, you might talk to presure2. I've talked to him before and he told me that he would swap my car for a fee. Considering he can get it done, start to finish, in two days with no issues, it's well worth what he charges.

Ya,
pretty sure in order for this swap to be succesfull I need a complete clip

[DEATH]

Ya,
pretty sure in order for this swap to be succesfull I need a complete clip

Yes you DO.
i second the JDM Guy shop deal. Talk to Manny [Presure2] - he definetly has done the most swaps out of any of us here. Whatever he charged I'd be willing to pay if I were you - it'll get done right the first time.
He's close to in RI somewhere [can be too hard to find - RI is smaller than my neighborhood LOL]

This post has been edited by DEATH: Jan 17, 2011 - 4:35 PM

[mkernz22]

Ya,
pretty sure in order for this swap to be succesfull I need a complete clip

Yes you DO.
i second the JDM Guy shop deal. Talk to Manny [Presure2] - he definetly has done the most swaps out of any of us here. Whatever he charged I'd be willing to pay if I were you - it'll get done right the first time.
He's close to in RI somewhere [can be too hard to find - RI is smaller than my neighborhood LOL]

New Bedford / Fall River to be exact haha

[presure2]

haha thanks for the kind words guys.
a basic rundown for a 3rd gen swap into a GT, with the stock tranny, looks somthing like this (these are all ballpark figures, and i probably am forgetting a couple things)
~3k for a clip
~500 for mantinence parts (water pump, timing belt, tensioner, wires, cap, rotor, plugs)
~3-500 wiring (cost varys depending on setup)
~500 exhaust (add for stainless piping)
~100 fuel pump
~400 clutch
labor is where it gets tricky, depending on what you want for an end result, it can vary wildly, from ~1k-1200, to way more than 99% of people here would think is resonable to spend on a car. lol
if your serious, PM me when your ready.

[Success21]

This is where i got mine done. http://www.enhancedstreetperformance.com/

I was thinking once the weather got better to try and get a celica dyno day there. They have an AWD dyno thats pretty sweet. If there is a CSP meet we can go there a day before or after it.

[Cevax]

haha thanks for the kind words guys.
a basic rundown for a 3rd gen swap into a GT, with the stock tranny, looks somthing like this (these are all ballpark figures, and i probably am forgetting a couple things)
~3k for a clip
~500 for mantinence parts (water pump, timing belt, tensioner, wires, cap, rotor, plugs)
~3-500 wiring (cost varys depending on setup)
~500 exhaust (add for stainless piping)
~100 fuel pump
~400 clutch
labor is where it gets tricky, depending on what you want for an end result, it can vary wildly, from ~1k-1200, to way more than 99% of people here would think is resonable to spend on a car. lol
if your serious, PM me when your ready.

The partout is going well but at this point I dont plan to start another project until may, I will be without a car for all this time but my honda was my only car. I worked on it for 13 months so whats another 5 months taking the bus. Was looking to start right away with another one but I am tired at this point. Will just unplug and figure something out when it gets warm out again. Looking to put together at least 10 and with rent bills that wont happen till may.

[alltracst185]

This is where i got mine done. http://www.enhancedstreetperformance.com/

I was thinking once the weather got better to try and get a celica dyno day there. They have an AWD dyno thats pretty sweet. If there is a CSP meet we can go there a day before or after it.

I would not join that dyno day, i have heard bad things about this shop on mr2oc and have had them do a little work on my trac. They did NOT fix the problem i brought it in for and overcharged me twice over the quote they gave me.

[eboz74]

wow everyone from mass lol makes me wish i was into cars when i lived in new bedford

[presure2]

This is where i got mine done. http://www.enhancedstreetperformance.com/

I was thinking once the weather got better to try and get a celica dyno day there. They have an AWD dyno thats pretty sweet. If there is a CSP meet we can go there a day before or after it.

I would not join that dyno day, i have heard bad things about this shop on mr2oc and have had them do a little work on my trac. They did NOT fix the problem i brought it in for and overcharged me twice over the quote they gave me.

yea, i have a guy thats just a few blocks from the house who has great rates and is a very cool guy, although his dynojet is 2wd only.

another AWD place opened recently in seekonk, they have been running 50$ for 3 run specials every other weekend seems like. if all goes well, we'll run by there with jims swap soon.

[alltracst185]

Presure2, let me know how they do...i need to find a GOOD shop to tune my trac when i'm done.

[Cevax]

Presure2, let me know how they do...i need to find a GOOD shop to tune my trac when i'm done.

If things continue how its going now I will probably be ready sooner. Back on my toyota days a few years ago I did tons of research on the 4a/7age etc motors. One of the reasons I want to go back to toyota is the way the 4agze bottom end is. If other turbo toyota motors have rods that big I am golden. I did the pistons, rods, crank, heads, manifold, garrett 60 trim charger, everything on the honda. I dont want to do it again, will a 3sgte handle 500 horse stock with a aem.stand alone and 1000cc injectors, with a 6262 precision turbo? i think its about 1100 cfm.

If u guys dont ban me I can post a few pics of the honda motor

[pipes]

i didnt even know there so many mass member till i checked the map

[mkernz22]

i didnt even know there so many mass member till i checked the map

there's a guy in mansfield that has a 6th gen. i gotta print out a slip and throw it on his car haha

[Cevax]

I know I don't have the motor yet but this is like an addiction to me, I have to be working on something otherwise I am just bored. I purchased the service manual and started doing research on the 3s before I start looking for a chassis. It will either be a mr2 or an already swapped 3s due to the time and cost, I only have 10 thousand to spend and the swap will eat up most if not all of that. I been doing lots of research the last few days on how to approach this motor and I found lots of info that just doesn't seem correct to me. Also doesn't help that not a lot of people have really pushed these engines which is really a shame considering how well they designed they appear to be. Anyway what I gather is between 275-320 horse and considering the cars weight I am looking for more around 350 to 450 at the wheels. I really don't see the motor failing at these power levels considering the size or the rods, compression and pistons used, as long as timing is conservative, egt's are under control with no knocking the engine should hold up well. I drove around a 220 horse single jingle and those things have rods the size of number 2 pencils in them, the pistons and rods came out like new when I pulled it to rebuild it. I still have the Honda and now that I am determine in making this my next project there are a few parts I am not going to part out. These being the garrett turbocharger, aem wideband, profec b, timer, precision injects, 255 pump, tial wastegate, map sensor and the egt sensor . Obvious things that have to go is are the head bolts, complete exhaust and and out of experience Toyota ecu's are not very "tuner" friendly, but I did have an aem series 2 ems before and those things are awesome so looking into getting another one of those. So scrapping the fuel delivery and adding a real turbocharger I should see the gains I am hoping for, people give in your 2 cents please

One thing I am worried about is my turbocharger, I purchased a rather large one due to my compression only being 7.4.1 and needed to run about 20 to 30 pounds to get it to about 500 horse. The turbo does NOTHING between 6 and 10 psi and comes alive above 13 the 1.6 liter spooled it at around 4500-5k rpm made boost all the day to 9000. I hope this changes with a 2 liter motor since I would like it to spool sooner.

This post has been edited by Cevax: Jan 29, 2011 - 9:54 AM