KYB GR2 vs OEM, ST205 |
KYB GR2 vs OEM, ST205 |
Jun 23, 2011 - 12:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '10 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Well, I was given a pair of KYB for my ST205 (yes you've read it right...given...free).
And now I'm hesitating to install them on my car (wth are you hesitating for?). Well the thing is, I've ordered an SSIII replica kit and I got it here, too. So now I have to chose because, if I drop the car with the KYB, the body kit will be 1 inch from the ground...which is very bad in canada's roads. So compared to the OEM, is there a good difference in handling and performance? Another thing is, in long term will it hurt the SSS or other mecanical parts due to hard road bumps and holes? |
Jun 23, 2011 - 12:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
You shouldn't have any change in ride height whatsoever if you're just replacing a strut, unless said strut is blown and therefore, your car should actually be higher after installation.
-------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
'93 MX-5 LE |
Jun 23, 2011 - 12:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '10 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
The car is came from was actually lower...I assume it was from the springs then...
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Jun 23, 2011 - 3:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 26, '11 From beaufort,SC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
springs lower ride but of course if your lowering you want struts capable of going lower. so you should be fine doing a direct replacement with oem springs and ride height will be the same, but yeah what ferdi said is about spot on, good luck
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Jun 23, 2011 - 4:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '10 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Ok, so let's say I end up with those kyb with lowering springs. Will it hurt my car in long term? (damage to the SSS arms and bushings, swaybar issues? etc...)
edit: the coils are RS*R This post has been edited by TheChildOfTheSea: Jun 23, 2011 - 4:45 PM |
Jun 23, 2011 - 10:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
GR2's are a KYB Factory replacement strut. They're not any stiffer than the factory ones. They just last longer and will take the abuse and lowering.
-------------------- 1994 Toyota Celica GT-S 5S-FE 190k Miles. Project car 1992 Toyota Celica GT 5S-FE 170k Miles. Daily driver/beater 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5S-FE 216K Miles. RIP You will be missed. *ASE Certified General Manager |
Jun 24, 2011 - 9:54 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '10 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
but having the car lower will still increase the performance anyway...
Now having a car lower, will that hurt the body, frame, chassis, mechanics in log-term? |
Jun 24, 2011 - 10:47 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 20, '09 From Winnipeg Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
It won't hurt the body unless you really really low and are scraping the frame on the ground.
It shouldn't do any mechanical damage, it may cause other suspension componants to wear slightly quicker such as endlinks, bushings, etc. but not too much. Its defiantely worth it though. Celica's come with a HUGE amount of wheel gap from the factory. IMO lowering it is the easiest (best bang for your buck) way to change the look of it and make it look more aggressive. A good set of wheels helps too. -------------------- -Protection mode, For when your amp tries to blow its load. 1995 Toyota Celica GTS - Daily Driver 1999 Chevy Cavalier - Winter Beater 1994 Honda Civic CX Hatchback - Dead My Celica! |
Jun 24, 2011 - 11:35 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '10 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Yeah! I think i'll install them after all, and put only the front and rear spats and maybe try to sell the side skirts...
I'll keep the OEM rims, I kinda like them and they are amazingly solid, which is perfect for canadian conditions |
Jun 24, 2011 - 12:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 20, '09 From Winnipeg Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
What springs are you planning to drop the car with?
The SS-III splitters to make it too much lowered compared to say TRD splitters. If you're worried about the splitters hitting the ground, if you get bigger rims, the wheel gap will be reduce but the actually body of the car will sit higher so it won't risk scraping, if that makrs sense. So you could always go that way if you're worried about the splitters scrapping the ground. -------------------- -Protection mode, For when your amp tries to blow its load. 1995 Toyota Celica GTS - Daily Driver 1999 Chevy Cavalier - Winter Beater 1994 Honda Civic CX Hatchback - Dead My Celica! |
Jun 24, 2011 - 3:02 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '10 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I will lower the car with the current spring I have on my KYB: RS*R
yeah, well the splitters shouldn't be so bad from what I've seen... |
Jun 24, 2011 - 3:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm not sure if the struts differ in mounting, but the SSS arms are different sizes between SS-III and GT-Four
found that out when Toyota once sent the wrong arm -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
Jun 24, 2011 - 3:11 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
I'm not sure if the struts differ in mounting, but the SSS arms are different sizes between SS-III and GT-Four no frigin way dude! The only thing different about gt4 and SS-III superstrut is the rear Mcpherson suspension found on both celica's. GT-4 Rear Mcpherson suspension shock is shorter... what do you mean by sizes?? This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jun 24, 2011 - 3:12 PM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#entry1107514 |
Jun 24, 2011 - 3:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
arm doesnt fit, ball joint slightly larger, arm slightly longer.
believe me theres alot different that you find by owning such cars than you do by researching internet forums about cars u'll never even see in your country -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
Jun 24, 2011 - 3:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
That and it's just my luck that Toyota would **** it up twice and first send me a Corolla arm, then send me an SS-III arm before finally sending the correct GT4 arm.
-------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
Jun 24, 2011 - 5:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
discussion moving over to Superstrut thread......
-------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#entry1107514 |
Jun 24, 2011 - 6:18 PM |
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Jun 30, 2011 - 5:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
LOL, I thought you said you bought a replica set of SS-III KYB GR2's
-------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
Jun 30, 2011 - 5:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '10 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
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Jun 30, 2011 - 5:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '08 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What do you mean a pair? 2 front struts? if u got it install it, may aswell, no question at all lol//
ss-iii splitters will be fine, i mean unless u slammed so far that your wheel lugs are hidden in the guards then yeah maybe but your bodykit will be the least of your worries i cant imagine 1" from the ground, the celica is way too high up, someone has been exaggerating u would scrap a million other things before scraping ss-iii splitters -------------------- Mike W
1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOUR GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC 269awhp / 273ft-lbs |
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