 ECU chips... really worth it ?? |
 Jan 10, 2012 - 12:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '12 From Missouri Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
i've noticed several ECU chips being advertised in different places, but are they really worth it ? they sound too good to be true, that is, increase horsepower AND mpg's in just 15 minutes for 70 bucks .. ??
does everyone have one of these except me ? am i that late to the "party" ? just wanted to ask for anyones two cents worth on the subject. thanks to one and all in advance. -al |
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Jan 10, 2012 - 12:17 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
No.
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Jan 10, 2012 - 12:19 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
^^^
What he said -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Jan 10, 2012 - 12:26 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
it depends. Dot let first responses fool you...
if you are selling them, its totally worth it, you can make a lot of money, claiming false resutls, that cant be vrified, most are placed by the user, which voids the warranty, thus excluding you from liability. if you are buying them yes and no. On a celica definetely no. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Jan 10, 2012 - 9:00 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
about the only "chipping" thats worth it is when you program an ECU. In our case, theyre not programable. also installing a small "chip" in place or in line with a sensoe is 100% BS, all the time.
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Jan 10, 2012 - 10:33 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 2, '07 From Berlin, WI Currently Offline Reputation: 18 (100%) |
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jan 9, 2012 - 11:26 PM)  it depends. Dot let first responses fool you... if you are selling them, its totally worth it, you can make a lot of money, claiming false resutls, that cant be vrified, most are placed by the user, which voids the warranty, thus excluding you from liability. if you are buying them yes and no. On a celica definetely no.  --------------------  *1997 Celica ST - 3SGE Greytop BEAMS *1977 Celica RA29 - Classic Cruiser *2005 Matrix AWD - dedded but still hanging around like a ghost 2019 Rav4 XLE Premium - Sports mode is fun. |
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Jan 10, 2012 - 10:35 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 19, '11 From Paraguay, Winchestertonfieldville Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
biggest ricer scam ever.
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Jan 10, 2012 - 11:14 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 2, '12 From Sydney, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It really depends on your everyday situation. Unless you're fitting performance parts to your celica to do sunday cups than go for it... but you really wouldnt want an ECU for everyday driving. When you fit an ECU into a stock celica, you think you've noticed something different but there really wont be much difference at all. ECU = Placebo effect. Might as well buy a packet of chips and stick it under your hood. You'll notice something too, your car's engine power will smoke competition for sure
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Jan 10, 2012 - 11:34 AM
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You talking about those chips on eBay? No, those don't work. Those are nothing more than a resistor that you could buy for about $0.03.
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Jan 10, 2012 - 11:47 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
CHIPS you install in place of or in line of a sensor = scam
Chipping or PROGRAMMING your ecu (a legit reprogram of your ecu, like honda guys can do, but NOT on a toyota ecu i ever heard of) WILL make a difference. so any "chip" directed to a toyota = scam unless it replaces the ecu entirely, or a piggy back. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jan 10, 2012 - 2:03 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
So when I run cams, I don't have to reprogram my ECU right? Because it's not possible?
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Jan 10, 2012 - 3:51 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '06 From Calgary, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Jan 10, 2012 - 12:03 PM) So when I run cams, I don't have to reprogram my ECU right? Because it's not possible? I believe you will need to reset your ECU so that it can pick up on the modifications and make the necessary adjustments on its own. QUICK INSTRUCTIONS: Start the car and let it idle for about 10 minutes Turn off the car, pop the hood. According to the BGB - pull the EFI fuse for ~20-30 seconds (IIRC) Put it back in, close the hood Start the car. Takes a bit to learn itself... but after any significant performance modification, its a great idea to reset the ECU. -------------------- |
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Jan 10, 2012 - 4:06 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
Should you get a fuel management system when you get cams?
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Jan 10, 2012 - 6:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
you should get something to tune with for anything more than intake / exhaust.
hell just getting a piggyback on a stock car will probably gain you >10 hp and some mpgs as well -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jan 10, 2012 - 6:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '10 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Why are toyota ECU's not flashable?
I have a chevy tuner/flasher for my rx7 its pretty much amazing. You can do anything to it. I'm in the upper 700rwhp range and I still have the stock ECU. That really blows if you have to get an engine management system for pretty much any real mods.... -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
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Jan 10, 2012 - 6:27 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
the ROM that holds the tune isn't reprogrammable IIRC.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jan 10, 2012 - 6:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
I've run across a 'New Standard' that says all ECU after Model Year '03 must be able to be re-flashed by other than the Dealer.. but that doesnt apply to us
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jan 10, 2012 - 6:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '10 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Interesting...
-------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
-95 Celica GT Rally Car - 3sge/AWD -10 F150 Always buying stock wheels... PM me if interested in selling. |
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Jan 10, 2012 - 6:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (czwalga @ Jan 10, 2012 - 3:26 PM) Why are toyota ECU's not flashable? toyota locks them in the firmware. other manufacturers like mitsubushi dont, so you can just plug into the ODBII port and reflash it -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
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Jan 10, 2012 - 7:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 27, '10 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE (Smaay @ Jan 10, 2012 - 6:48 PM) QUOTE (czwalga @ Jan 10, 2012 - 3:26 PM) Why are toyota ECU's not flashable? toyota locks them in the firmware. other manufacturers like mitsubushi dont, so you can just plug into the ODBII port and reflash it Most manufacturers lock them, however with enough aftermarket support the money is there to be spent to get around it. I know it took a few months before the latest GM vette stuff was unlocked. This post has been edited by czwalga: Jan 10, 2012 - 7:10 PM -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
-95 Celica GT Rally Car - 3sge/AWD -10 F150 Always buying stock wheels... PM me if interested in selling. |
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