Checking Group-Buy Interest to purchase Colt Cams Options

[JasonX]

Hello Everyone--
I would like to see how many of you would be interested to purchase Colt Cams.

This is a great mod, for some the first mod, with great results. It is the biggest bang for the buck. This cam profile is mild enough where getting a piggy back to adjust air/fuel ratio, exhaust, etc. modifications are not necessary, although they do complement it.

My goal is to send our cams in by April 15th. This should give most of us time to think, save, and get a set of cams. I purchased a set of cams from another member, so that I can still drive my car. You can also pull out a set from a junk yard, or send in your originals. The higher the number of participants, the higher the leverage I will have to score a deal. I don't know how much cheaper yet, but I will do my best.

Info:
5SFE .256 duration .330 lift - $350
5SFE .260 duration .345 lift - $400

3SGTE .260 duration .345 lift - $350

3SGE .260 duration .345 lift - $350

1mz quad cam V6 - intake .262 duration .347 lift
exhaust .264 duration .330 lift - $500

We need 6 sets or more (combination of 5sfe, 3sgte, 3sge is okay to get 6 sets) to get the deal excluding 1mz. Need 3 sets or more for the 1mz. Prices include shims and the return shipment. Payment is by money order or check. Turnaround is 2 weeks.


Please post if you are interested and let's get a head count.


Head count:

1. JasonX - 94 5sfe
2. Syaoran - 93 5sfe
3. 95CelicaST - Need vehicle info
4. Arsaces - 95 5sfe

This post has been edited by JasonX: Mar 13, 2012 - 11:28 AM

[ricochet1490]

Didn't manny have some dyno charts up somewhere of a colt cam install, a before and after on someone's 5s? I believe there was also a comparison to the Webcams and I think the consensus was that the colt cams provided a more smooth power band and more overall power didn't they?

I just can't find the thread ATM

[smkr3w]

Didn't manny have some dyno charts up somewhere of a colt cam install, a before and after on someone's 5s? I believe there was also a comparison to the Webcams and I think the consensus was that the colt cams provided a more smooth power band and more overall power didn't they?

I just can't find the thread ATM

I thought webcams gave a smoother curve compared to colt cams, but both added power..
I might be wrong, gonna search for the thread..

To the OP, I'd be interested if I had a spare set of cams
Bump.

[ricochet1490]

found it!!
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=81235
For folks who are interested in the differences.

[smkr3w]

I stand corrected. lol

[Arsaces]

I would definitely be interested in something like this if I can score some cams from a junkyard nearby. Quick question though, how involved is it for someone with NO internal engine experience to do an install like this? Also, setting up a SAFC, how difficult is it to get your settings correct?

-Nate

[Tigawoods]

I went in with no internal experience. Took some trial and error but i got it done, and now I now my way around the top end.
Tuning the SAFC would require a wideband A/F gauge.
once you plug in some of the required settings you can then mess with the High and Low throttle curves to adjust the A/F ratio and get it running right.

went off on a little rant there, but just letting you know what you are getting into

[Syaoran]

April? Shims included? $400?

I'm in for these.

[UVZ164]

You guys rekon it would be possible for Australian members to do this? We will just have a much higher shipping charge?

[Smaay]

how could they possibly know what shims you need? every one will be different.

I would be extremely interested in this if i wasn't installing a 1MZ in my car. NOW if they want to venture in the 1MZ cams, im sure a ton of customers would be interested

[presure2]

how could they possibly know what shims you need? every one will be different.

I would be extremely interested in this if i wasn't installing a 1MZ in my car. NOW if they want to venture in the 1MZ cams, im sure a ton of customers would be interested

they dont send new shims, they send the helper shims.
and dont go on a rant, you did it last time when zac got his and i proved you wrong then too.
the helper shims are fine, and work perfectly.
i was able to just drop the new cams in with the helper shims, and all but one was within spec. ( i could have left that one too, it was only .02 out.)
the colt cams are a great bang for the buck mod compared to most of the other mods on these cars (other than FI of course)

they do tons of diffrent cams, im sure geoff would be interested in the 1mz cams, if he hasnt already.

[czwalga]

I have a set of 5sfe cams rolling around in my garage somewhere, but they might be usable if they are being re-ground.

[JasonX]

Yes, as you guys already figured out, colt cams are smoother. They are also cheaper than webcams and include shims, as well as the return shipment. I'll hit him up and ask him if we can include 1MZ and the 3SGTE cams in this deal.

[kurt95gt]

If theyll do a good regrind on 1mz ill see if i have the extra after the swap is in

[95CelicaST]

I'm in if they'll do up 1MZ cams

[Arsaces]

Tuning the SAFC would require a wideband A/F gauge.
once you plug in some of the required settings you can then mess with the High and Low throttle curves to adjust the A/F ratio and get it running right.

How will the car run with just the cams and no SAFC (From OP it looks like it will run fine)?
Can a SAFC be tuned with data from a dyno (will this be cheaper than buying a wideband gauge?)?
I don't see much information on actually "tuning" our cars with the SAFC, so I can only assume that there is some simple concept that is followed when tuning + a bit of trial and error. I probably sound very ignorant here, but my Celica is my DD and I can't risk blowing the engine by walking into something like this blind.

-Nate

[Smaay]

Pressure, what are these helper shims you speak of? can you post a pic or anyone else?

[presure2]

heres a pic of the helper shim installed with the stock shim in a bucket, the shims are in the background of the pic.



more info on the install can be found here:

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...mp;hl=COLT+CAMS

i would find out which set that zac got, and see if they can do somthing a bit more agressive than those. while it did improve the powerband overall, and felt good, i feel like somthing a bit more agressive would be even better.

[Syaoran]

So when is this going to happen?

[JasonX]

Alright everyone, the deal I am trying to get will be for everyone, doesn't matter what cams you got. But, I seriously need a good count. Goal is to send off by April 15th.