Why is the 5sfe tilted?, Curious |
Why is the 5sfe tilted?, Curious |
May 6, 2012 - 8:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
I've been wandering why is the 5sfe engine tilted? Does it have to do with the transmission position or what? I'm clueless to why it's tilted. Lol.
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May 6, 2012 - 8:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Just a matter of making things fit. I know the 5S-FE in the Camry/Solara is titled too.
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May 6, 2012 - 8:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
Because you touch yourself at night.
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May 6, 2012 - 8:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 12, '08 Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
I read somewhere that it was an effort to bring the weight over the front axles, instead of in front of them
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May 6, 2012 - 8:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 29, '11 From Haltom City, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I read somewhere that it was an effort to bring the weight over the front axles, instead of in front of them I would assume with the larger cylinder head( I imagine its taller than the 3sgte head because its narrow angle) and the taller deck height of the block(because it has a longer stroke). It would hit the USDM hood if it were upright. Also, the manifold mounted catalytic converter would hit the radiator |
May 6, 2012 - 10:57 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '05 From Guam Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
^ thats what i thought.
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May 6, 2012 - 11:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
i thought had something to do with oil drainage..
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May 7, 2012 - 2:36 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 29, '11 From Haltom City, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Oh my ideas are just personal observations.
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May 7, 2012 - 3:22 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
ask toyota?? haha same with 4th gen 3sge...
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May 7, 2012 - 3:28 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 29, '10 From Lake Havasu City, AZ Currently Offline Reputation: 31 (100%) |
I read somewhere that it was an effort to bring the weight over the front axles, instead of in front of them i thought had something to do with oil drainage.. I do believe I read somewhere that its shifted for weight and if they tilted anymore it would cause drainage issues.. but I'm not sure. This post has been edited by smkr3w: May 7, 2012 - 3:39 AM -------------------- 6gcHeroes:808hectortimmybatmandiegotigamak |
May 7, 2012 - 3:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
I read somewhere that it was an effort to bring the weight over the front axles, instead of in front of them i thought had something to do with oil drainage.. I do believe I read somewhere that its shifted for weight and if they tilted anymore it would cause drainage issues.. but I'm not sure. going to the toyota museum very soon. The musuem is located here in CA, Torrance also where the TRD Headquarters USA is located. -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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May 7, 2012 - 2:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
So far Special Edy seems to have the most logic answer. Lol. I would like to know what BonzaiCelica can find out for us when he foes to the museum.
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May 7, 2012 - 2:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
if the 3SFE & 5SFE have the same height, then there's no difference in height between FE (narrow-angle valve) & GE (wide-angle valve) heads according to this pic:
it may also have something to do with keeping the hood line lower, which can also bring down the interior dash without compromising outward visibility, seating position can also be dropped, roof line, etc. etc. like it is for the fr-s/brz This post has been edited by azian_advanced: May 7, 2012 - 2:59 PM -------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
May 7, 2012 - 9:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Because they forgot the other 4 cylinders?
No, the correct answer is above, to maintain hood lines and what not, it's a tall engine. The S series do come in cars in a normal 90 deg position, for example in the Altezza where there is ample room. -------------------- |
May 10, 2012 - 1:44 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
some say its tilted because it was designed in rome.
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May 12, 2012 - 9:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 11, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
maybe because it is a tinsy bit bigger look at a 5sfe and the 7afe theres no room infront of the 5sfe if it wasnt titled it would rub into the fans, and the 7afe has alot more room. plus the 5sfe has the bulkier headers . but then again might be for keeping the engine cool.
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May 13, 2012 - 8:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Lake Orion, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
I always assumed it was tilted to make room for the Turbo and WAIC for the 3SGTE
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