My Beams Project, I Need more info guys Options

[1soljaslim5]

Hey everyone this is my first post.
I own a convertible 96 celica and my plan for this year is to swap it for a beams engine many suggest i go with turbo but personally i much rather go with n/a power ive seen in the forums countless times the swap done on convertibles and gt models,
but anyways to the point. not sure if anyone has covered this, i do however know it has been done before countless times but i was simply wondering if anyone has done a gauge cluster conversion from the beams st202(jdm) into a st204 gauge cluster (usdm). ive seen a video on youtube and want mine to like that except im not exactly sure what to do if i should remove the rpm white faceplate and gas and temp ton my usdm cluster or if i should simply take out my black mph speed gauge and place it on the st202(not sure if the st202 cluster bolts right up) but yes i need as much info as possible you guys im really trying to get this project come true

if i didnt make sense hopefully this vid will demonstrate what i mean. at exactly 0:54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbXj0aKty8U

thanks guys

[njccmd2002]

take the clster apart those modules come apart with screws.

[BonzaiCelica]

id say go with the beams cause its a good engine and i have one myself, but in the convertible chassis the power to weight ratio isn't that good. so 3rd gen 3sgte in stock form with lsd would be best option.

the coupe GT celica is 25 lbs lighter than liftback celica that is if both come with hardtops

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88961&hl=

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 28, 2013 - 3:03 PM

[njccmd2002]

power to weight ration, when its only a couple hundred punds heavier, yeah, my beams is a turtle

[1soljaslim5]

[quote name='BonzaiCelica' date='Mar 28, 2013 - 4:03 PM' post='1006286']
id say go with the beams cause its a good engine and i have one myself, but in the convertible chassis the power to weight ratio isn't that good. so 3rd gen 3sgte in stock form with lsd would be best option.

the coupe GT celica is 25 lbs lighter than liftback celica that is if both come with hardtops

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88961&hl=
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Hmmm well im really trying to get the beams since i can get it here locally they have one available here in sacramento for only 1500 with the ecu wire harness and lsd tranny but suppose i do get the beams and have it install and deceide to remove the electrical motors that move my convertible top up and down and remove the seats would it make a bit of a weight reduction.??

[1soljaslim5]

take the clster apart those modules come apart with screws.

yea ill get started on it later today and check it out though im not sure if i should place the rpms on my cluster or remove my mph and place it on the other cluster additionally once installed will the needles need to be calibrated??(im new to all this sorry) either way ill take pics and post them to show the progress.

[Smaay]

you are in California, the BEAMS will NEVER pass SMOG!

[njccmd2002]

move out of the nazi state, easy.

[1soljaslim5]

move out of the nazi state, easy.

hahaha good one!! but where to??seems like everywhere swaps are illegal for smog and with cali being super strict it blows
but i think i can make it work with the smog so many places out there that pass it for a few extra dollars lol

[Smaay]

yeah good luck with that.


if you want to do a legal swap in CA, you need to do a 1MZ-FE

[soulshadow]

The electronics on the JDM beams for the cluster will not match with USDM clusters so whatever you do even swapping faceplates will not work, because its still outputting kilometers per hour. Pretty much, its the same concept as slapping on a Turbo sticker and expecting to gain 30Hp when you have no turbo.

I could be wrong it has been a long time since I even looked at a cluster. ( Mines all Digital now....)

This post has been edited by soulshadow: Mar 29, 2013 - 5:10 AM

[njccmd2002]

I have hybrid cluster rpms and fuel from beams and speedo from USDm so it does work

[1soljaslim5]

I have hybrid cluster rpms and fuel from beams and speedo from USDm so it does work

so it works then??
guess ill have to find out hopefully i dont screw anything up
additionally i found this so just maybe itll work for mine

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=80750

[njccmd2002]

That's exactly what I did on both sides. Left the middle usdm

[1soljaslim5]

Well i got it installed today with no problem pretty much bolt on and it works perfect readings are right went out and i took it for a spin and the readings are fine although i dont have the beams motor in yet but not long now

This post has been edited by 1soljaslim5: Mar 30, 2013 - 7:12 PM

[nics]

you are in California, the BEAMS will NEVER pass SMOG!

Lmao if you have to smog it

OP - since you are in Sacramento, that would be easier to get around smog

[1soljaslim5]

It is Done looks beautiful!! Beams will be here soon cant wait!!