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post Jan 29, 2004 - 10:13 AM
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1996 GT ST-204 with a 5S-FE
Please, in the name of God someone help me find some headers!
Those arospeed jerks dont make them anymore,
does anyone know of anywhere else I can get some damn headers?!?!?!!?!?!?!?
plz help!! frown.gif thnx!
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post Jan 29, 2004 - 10:26 AM
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There is no company that makes them. If you want them you'll have to find somebody that will custom make you some.
post Jan 29, 2004 - 1:15 PM
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You need a header(notice how there's no "s"), and I think that you can buy one for a 3S-GE and have it modified to fit. I believe this is what Jared did on his car. wink.gif


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post Jan 29, 2004 - 1:23 PM
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Coomer....It was a usdm 3sfe.
And Yes you can put one on the 5sfe. I think he had to widen 1 bolt hole.


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post Jan 29, 2004 - 2:15 PM
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QUOTE (1bwilson @ Jan 29, 2004 - 10:23 AM)
Coomer....It was a usdm 3sfe.
And Yes you can put one on the 5sfe. I think he had to widen 1 bolt hole.

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying that. wink.gif


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post Jan 29, 2004 - 2:38 PM
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On the subject of headers... Does anyone know if the stock header has pre-cats in it, or any kind of emissions crud at all?
post Jan 29, 2004 - 3:29 PM
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yikes how embaressing thats the second time i had to be corrected hahaah
okay sorry, "header"
do you guys know what header jared got?
was it the hks type II racing header?
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btw whats his user name on 6gc.net?!
thnx!

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post Jan 29, 2004 - 4:11 PM
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QUOTE (integra_killer @ Jan 29, 2004 - 8:29 PM)
yikes how embaressing thats the second time i had to be corrected hahaah
okay sorry, "header"
do you guys know what header jared got?
was it the hks type II racing header?
confused.gif

btw whats his user name on 6gc.net?!
thnx!

HKS doesn't make a header for the 5SFE... as I know. They probably do for the 3SGE though.

And yes... the 5SFE and 7AFE exhaust manifolds do have cats built in them...

As far as actually getting a header goes... what for? If for increased performance... there are better things to do than spend 2-3 hundred or so dollars for a header...


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post Jan 29, 2004 - 4:18 PM
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If you're desparate...Try This... Also, this header will bolt-up directly... but the downpipe will most likely need modification...

A header is not gonna add a ton of power (a few horses at most). Typical n/a 4 cylinders these days get excellent exhaust flow with the stock set-up...

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post Jan 29, 2004 - 7:51 PM
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um, as far as i know.... the stock exhaust manifold generally just has an O2 sensor in it, and most aftermarket headers have o2 hook ups either in the header itself or on the downpipe.... an exhaust manifold doesn't have a built in cat.... the cat is after the downpipe......
post Jan 29, 2004 - 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 30, 2004 - 12:51 AM)
um, as far as i know.... the stock exhaust manifold generally just has an O2 sensor in it, and most aftermarket headers have o2 hook ups either in the header itself or on the downpipe.... an exhaust manifold doesn't have a built in cat.... the cat is after the downpipe......

It has a cat... or at least mine does... I'll try to post a pic...


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post Jan 30, 2004 - 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Jan 29, 2004 - 8:11 PM)
QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Jan 30, 2004 - 12:51 AM)
um, as far as i know.... the stock exhaust manifold generally just has an O2 sensor in it, and most aftermarket headers have o2 hook ups either in the header itself or on the downpipe.... an exhaust manifold doesn't have a built in cat.... the cat is after the downpipe......

It has a cat... or at least mine does... I'll try to post a pic...

The 5sfe one has one also.

So yes they do have built in cats in the exhaust manifold.


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post Jan 30, 2004 - 1:15 AM
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guess that's something they did in the later model cars..... still seems like it would cost them more to build a cat into an exhaust manifold than to have 2 seperate cats like new cars have.....
post Jan 30, 2004 - 1:10 PM
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QUOTE (1bwilson @ Jan 30, 2004 - 5:15 AM)
QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Jan 29, 2004 - 8:11 PM)
I'll try to post a pic...


So yes they do have built in cats in the exhaust manifold.

Ugh. I would like so see a pic if you have one handy. If not, it is enough to know that it has a cat... which means I can't change the dang thing.
post Jan 30, 2004 - 1:29 PM
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Ripp mods (the supercharger guys) made a header for their project. someone should contact them and see if they just sell the header.


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post Jan 30, 2004 - 2:34 PM
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Here's a picture of the 7AFE exhaust manifold... The entire bottom piece is the cat (the part wrapped in the heat shield)... I believe it's also the case with the 5SFE manifold...

Here is a back-side pict...

And here is a pict of inside the cat...

This is for the California version of the AT200... so others may vary... but in this case... there is a cat in the manifold.

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post Jan 30, 2004 - 3:02 PM
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My 5S-FE has two holes for the o2 sensor. One PRE CAT and the other POST CAT.
post Feb 1, 2004 - 2:59 PM
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I have the Pacesetter 3s-fe header from the 4th gen Celicas from Summit racing.
Bout $150 shipped to my door.
All u have to do is widen one of the holes to the head stud.
DON'T use the pacesetter gaskets.
I went and got the Felpro(sp?) metal gaskets.
Thats the exhaust mani gasket and the collector gasket.
B4 i blew 5 of the paper gaskets with sealent.
Changed to the metal and its great.

As said there is 2 O2 sensors on the 5s.
There is one hole for the o2 on the header.
Since it eliminates the cat, u have to either weld a new bung in for the 2nd o2 or just do what i did and splice one o2 sensor into the other.
That way u don't get a CEL for not having 2 o2's.


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post Feb 2, 2004 - 11:53 AM
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The second o2 sensor has 2 wires while the first o2 sensor has 1. How do you splice the the wires?
post Feb 2, 2004 - 5:46 PM
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i heard that hotshot proformance is coming out a header for 90-99 celica gt.. but still haven't when they are releasing it out.

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