 KYB GR2 Install, Cut Needed? |
 Feb 28, 2004 - 6:12 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Feb 16, '04 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
About to order some GR2s. I know with Koni's you have to cut the front struts for the insert. Is it the same with the KYBs?
The rears come with the housing (I think), but the fronts are just inserts. Do they nicely slide into place or do I need to do some cutting? --------------------  |
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Feb 28, 2004 - 8:39 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Theres no need for any cutting, just swap out.... just be carful about the rear sway bar links, spray them down with wd-40 an let sit a few times... just cause you strip the allen , your gunn ahave to cut an spend around 100 bucks to replace... other then that, pretty easy
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Feb 29, 2004 - 10:08 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 12, '04 From Hellburbia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you have to cut the rears with koni, not the front, and yes KYB GR-2s will fit fine, as dign posted.
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Feb 29, 2004 - 10:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '04 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Cool! I can' wait for 'em to come in...
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Feb 29, 2004 - 11:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From Panama City Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
what has to be cut on the rear strut to install the koni's? is it the stock mounting bracket for the wheel hub?
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Feb 29, 2004 - 11:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no the Koni's have a small piece that extends beyond the bottom of the strut housing. therefore they need to have a little hole made to fit the piece through. |
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Mar 2, 2004 - 8:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From Panama City Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
oh, ok so nothing really complex. that's cool
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Mar 15, 2004 - 11:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '04 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well I got them installed and I must say, the Eibach/KYB combo is bad ass. Makes me really want to get sway bars and strut bars now. Threw the car around a bit and was getting excellent balance (tire squealing) from all around. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions/help.
I've written down the experiences (too much to read, but easily scannable). Perhaps it will be useful for people who haven't done it. Let's just say there were some unforseen difficulties. http://chrisritchie.org/journal/Journal.html Pictures will come soon, just need to finish off the roll. This post has been edited by mr_dude: Mar 15, 2004 - 11:20 PM -------------------- |
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Mar 22, 2004 - 3:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '02 From Longmont, CO Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Actually, the stock strut housing isn't made for changeable inserts. You have to cut the housing open at the top, take the old insert out, put the new one in, and then weld the top back on. There is also a bolt in the bottom of the struts to bolt it to the housing. |
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Mar 24, 2004 - 4:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 10, '03 From oklahoma Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
about to buy KYB-GR2, any1 know where can get it cheaper besides TireRack?
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Mar 24, 2004 - 5:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thats the best place, were I got mine.
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May 27, 2004 - 10:13 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 19, '04 From austin tx Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Do they make the enitre strut housing for the fronts? i can only find the cartridges for the fronts (and read that its just the cartridge you replace), and ive read that its alot easier to replace the entire strut instead of just the cartridge, and its not much more expensive. Do they sell the entire housing, or am i better off just getting the cartridges?
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May 27, 2004 - 10:31 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 2, '04 From Louisiana, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Mostly correct, but no welding is required; the new strut is secured to the old rear housing by a bolt through the bottom. Koni supplies a rubber grommet that seals everything up to a degree, and the insert itself is completely self-contained. Still wondering why there is a misconception about the welding (or lack thereof). mikew04, It is no more or less difficult to change out an insert than it is to do a complete housing. Either way, you have to remove the strut and spring assembly off the car, compress the spring, and remove the strut top bushing. With inserts, the only other thing you need to do is remove the threaded retention collar that holds the inserts in the housings and replace them. This post has been edited by S_C_M: May 27, 2004 - 10:36 AM |
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May 27, 2004 - 10:36 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 6, '03 From Philadelphia Suburbs Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
the fronts are full replacements if your Celica had the performance option included and the KYB cartridges won't work. TireRack does not sell them, nor did they even know about that option when I bought mine. The only place to get a new full cartridge with the performance option is through Toyota - and at a whopping 250 or more each - you may be discouraged, I was.
I ended up with the KYB in the rear and Eibach Pro Kit springs all around. The fronts are still fine after 80K, but I can't help wonder how much better it would feel if I replaced the fronts too - but didn't have the extra 600 beans. Huge difference between stock shocks / springs and the KYB Rear and Eibach springs all around combination - turns tight! - Well worth it! Good Luck This post has been edited by CJOHNST3: May 27, 2004 - 10:38 AM |
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May 27, 2004 - 11:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '02 From Longmont, CO Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I wasn't sure about the welding. Thats what I was told when I bought mine used. Unfortunately, I never got to install them before I lost my Celi. 
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