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post Jan 16, 2013 - 4:49 PM
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Hi, I am sure this has been answered somewhere, but I need help on what to do and expect on raising boost to 17psi.

From my understanding, the stock computer/turbo/internals can handle up to 17-17.5psi.

Now, I was looking at buying an AEM Boost Controller, a Turbo Smart Fuel Cut Defender and put in a Down Pipe (I already have a 3" CAT Back Exhaust and an Intake).

So:
1. Will I need anything else?
2. What kind of Power Increase can I expect?
3. Will the car remain Reliable?

Kindly let me know. Thanks.
 
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post Jan 17, 2013 - 2:18 PM
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For 17psi (1.1bar) you wont need anything. 17.4psi or there abouts is the standard fuel cut. As long as the car is mechanically sound you will be fine although you may occasionally hit fuel cut in certain conditions

Fuel cut defenders are best avoided. All they do is **** with your car...those things are deadly. I wouldnt fit one if you payed me.

If that is your only mod (other than the ones you mention) I recon you'll be lucky to make 300BHP at best if your car is in perfect working order.


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post Jan 25, 2013 - 3:28 AM
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From 2009 I try to find out how to squize some more HP from ST205 3SGTE. I have spend many hours on dyno... I saw what is possible, what is not. Where are the limits. Believe me what Nial wrote below is bloody true wink.gif

QUOTE (Nial @ Jan 17, 2013 - 8:18 PM) *
For 17psi (1.1bar) you wont need anything. 17.4psi or there abouts is the standard fuel cut. As long as the car is mechanically sound you will be fine although you may occasionally hit fuel cut in certain conditions

Fuel cut defenders are best avoided. All they do is **** with your car...those things are deadly. I wouldnt fit one if you payed me.

If that is your only mod (other than the ones you mention) I recon you'll be lucky to make 300BHP at best if your car is in perfect working order.


Plus... just do not underestimate one "small" thing. It is called "Octane rating" of the fuel you use. According to wikipedia has "regular" fuel in the US rate 87(AKI) that is 91RON... ST205 has ECU mapped for 95RON. That is in AKI 90–91. So in the USA when you take 90-91 you can expect those 245-250HP with stock boost. When you push the car to 17psi be sure you hit the limit of the 90-91AKI fuel first and you barely reach 300HP. Probably just those 280 already mentioned.

To get higher you need to put inside 93–94AKI fuel OR cool down the mixture. So really do not underestimate octane rating of the fuel you use.

note: is it true you CAN NOT buy 93-94AKI fuel in California? If so... how is got damn possible you have 350HP on the engine with that low quality fuel and not destroy the engine???


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Posts in this topic
- veadp   ST205 Increasing Boost To 17PSI...   Jan 16, 2013 - 4:49 PM
- - Smaay   1. not that i can think of 2. 330-350 3. yes   Jan 16, 2013 - 6:27 PM
- - veadp   Phew! I thought it was gonna become unreliable...   Jan 16, 2013 - 6:41 PM
- - delusionz   i suggest forget the boost cut defender, just get ...   Jan 17, 2013 - 2:27 AM
- - veadp   I think the Fuel Cut Defender is more of a piece ...   Jan 17, 2013 - 11:43 AM
- - Ted95   QUOTE (veadp @ Jan 17, 2013 - 11:43 ...   Jan 17, 2013 - 12:13 PM
- - veadp   Thanks a lot for the help fellas. I will be going...   Jan 17, 2013 - 2:01 PM
- - Nial   For 17psi (1.1bar) you wont need anything. 17.4psi...   Jan 17, 2013 - 2:18 PM
|- - malpaso   From 2009 I try to find out how to squize some mor...   Jan 25, 2013 - 3:28 AM
- - veadp   Ok, thanks Nial, I'll keep that in mind. And ...   Jan 17, 2013 - 2:24 PM
- - Smaay   i drove a 6th gen with a 3S swap in it at 18 lbs ...   Jan 17, 2013 - 7:29 PM
- - talen   Well sense where on the topic of boost and hp. Ill...   Jan 17, 2013 - 11:32 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (talen @ Jan 17, 2013 - 11:32 ...   Jan 17, 2013 - 11:58 PM
- - black13   What? Your worried about reliability yet wanna ins...   Jan 18, 2013 - 2:14 AM
- - delusionz   st205 barely make 240hp at the wheels on standard...   Jan 18, 2013 - 3:33 AM
- - UndaGrwnD   mine does 235 on the wheels, with boost slightly m...   Jan 18, 2013 - 3:38 AM
- - 83841   Im Currently running HKS intake, Berk Downpipe, Ka...   Jan 24, 2013 - 5:10 PM
- - UndaGrwnD   hmm maybe thats why my car dyno'd with higher ...   Jan 25, 2013 - 4:29 AM
- - bsamps4   I dynoed 298 at 17.6 psi using 93 octane fuel.   Jan 25, 2013 - 6:59 AM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Jan 25, 2013 - 12:5...   Jan 25, 2013 - 7:16 AM
- - Ted95   Dustin (Batman722) dyno'd at 329hp at 19psi on...   Jan 25, 2013 - 8:13 AM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (Ted95 @ Jan 26, 2013 - 2:13 A...   Jan 30, 2013 - 5:21 PM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jan 30, 2013 - 5...   Jan 30, 2013 - 6:08 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jan 30, 2013 - 6...   Jan 30, 2013 - 6:17 PM
- - delusionz   everyone stop with the power numbers for a moment ...   Jan 30, 2013 - 5:13 PM
- - enderswift   QUOTE (delusionz @ Jan 30, 2013 - 5...   Jan 30, 2013 - 5:33 PM
- - delusionz   Not stock. GT4OC dyno day ^--- in every run, 240...   Jan 30, 2013 - 6:37 PM
- - malpaso   There are many interesting points in this topic an...   Feb 1, 2013 - 3:02 AM
- - Mr_Tee   Next question is, can the ct20b ceramic wheel hand...   Feb 13, 2013 - 12:12 AM
- - delusionz   i think so, i think the main thing is the oil supp...   Feb 13, 2013 - 3:13 AM


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