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post Nov 9, 2007 - 12:09 AM
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Occasionally while driving, my transmission whenever going into 3rd gear. I know the tranny was replaced earlier before I bought the car, but what could the grind mean? I'm going to try to put Synchromesh transmission fluid and see if that could fix it, but what else could it be?

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post Jan 28, 2013 - 2:00 PM
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This is why everyone recommends Pennzoil Syncromesh, specifically because it SEEMS to improve 3rd gear grind which appears to be the weakest link in our transmission. As the temperature drops the viscosity increases. I bet you cant even pour 75W-90 out of the bottle when its below freezing outside, so imagine how much worse a higher viscosity is.
A possible solution would be to fill your transmission with a lower viscosity in winter, and then switch back to 75W-90 in spring/summer. Viscosity is relative to ambient temperature(10W-30 motor oil is 200+ weight at room temperature but 30 at operating temp), and the syncronizers are designed for a very specific thickness. So by all means try a thinner fluid next winter and see if it solves the issue. The fact that the issue only occurs when its cold means your fluid is too thick.

And @ ILoveMySilly97, it is 2.7 quarts for the GT. Basically if you park it on a level surface you can fill it till it starts spilling out of the fill plug hole. The only way to overfill is if it is parked on a hill or you have the front end jacked up. They sell a hand pump that screws onto the bottle at the autoparts store, it is absolutely a must.

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post Jan 29, 2013 - 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jan 28, 2013 - 2:00 PM) *
This is why everyone recommends Pennzoil Syncromesh, specifically because it SEEMS to improve 3rd gear grind which appears to be the weakest link in our transmission. As the temperature drops the viscosity increases. I bet you cant even pour 75W-90 out of the bottle when its below freezing outside, so imagine how much worse a higher viscosity is.
A possible solution would be to fill your transmission with a lower viscosity in winter, and then switch back to 75W-90 in spring/summer. Viscosity is relative to ambient temperature(10W-30 motor oil is 200+ weight at room temperature but 30 at operating temp), and the syncronizers are designed for a very specific thickness. So by all means try a thinner fluid next winter and see if it solves the issue. The fact that the issue only occurs when its cold means your fluid is too thick.

And @ ILoveMySilly97, it is 2.7 quarts for the GT. Basically if you park it on a level surface you can fill it till it starts spilling out of the fill plug hole. The only way to overfill is if it is parked on a hill or you have the front end jacked up. They sell a hand pump that screws onto the bottle at the autoparts store, it is absolutely a must.


Mine does it once it warms up though....
It shifts better when it's colder and still thick.

Posts in this topic
- GotToyota   Occasional grind in 3rd gear   Nov 9, 2007 - 12:09 AM
- - bccentaur3   The grinding is from the synchronizers are going o...   Nov 9, 2007 - 12:12 AM
- - celicamike   QUOTE(GotToyota @ Nov 9, 2007 - 12:0...   Nov 12, 2007 - 5:16 PM
|- - GotToyota   QUOTE(celicamike @ Nov 12, 2007 - 5...   Nov 12, 2007 - 6:53 PM
|- - celicamike   [/quote] Awesome, I'm going to try that soon. ...   Nov 13, 2007 - 5:23 PM
- - 94CelicaDragon   QUOTE(GotToyota @ Nov 9, 2007 - 12:0...   Nov 12, 2007 - 7:53 PM
- - Harold_Fastwaker   To quote myself here about ST trans. QUOTE(Harold...   Nov 13, 2007 - 4:12 PM
- - bccentaur3   just buy 3 to be on the safe side. I think its lik...   Nov 13, 2007 - 7:55 PM
- - peroxwhysm00   i have the same thing, so avoid it, put clutch dow...   Nov 14, 2007 - 6:37 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   So my 3rd gear only grinds when my transmission is...   Jan 27, 2013 - 9:40 PM
|- - Special_Edy   QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Jan 27, 2013 - 1...   Jan 28, 2013 - 12:32 PM
- - mkernz22   My shifts better into 3rd when it's cold. Afte...   Jan 28, 2013 - 12:43 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Yea I use 75w90. That's what was recommended t...   Jan 28, 2013 - 1:12 PM
- - Box   It's just part of it. My uncle has had nine 6...   Jan 28, 2013 - 1:17 PM
- - cyberblader1130   Wow i've had this issue the entire time i...   Jan 28, 2013 - 1:20 PM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (cyberblader1130 @ Jan 28, 2013 - ...   Jan 28, 2013 - 1:37 PM
- - Box   If you have a GT swap to the E153 transmission, an...   Jan 28, 2013 - 1:54 PM
- - Special_Edy   This is why everyone recommends Pennzoil Syncromes...   Jan 28, 2013 - 2:00 PM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jan 28, 2013 - 2...   Jan 29, 2013 - 12:27 AM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Thanks for the infos. Going to change tranny fluid...   Jan 29, 2013 - 12:05 AM


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