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post Jan 16, 2013 - 4:27 AM
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Howdy. Got a UK '96 ST202 3S-GE.

Firstly, when I start the engine I can hear air bubbles circulating around the cooling system (happens about 3 seconds from ignition).

I've checked that the coolant is fully topped up.

On two occasions I haven't heard any bubbles.. when that happens, no hot air comes in and the engine temp rises above normal. When this has happened I've felt the pipes and found that the top pipe and top of the radiator is hot and the bottom pipe and bottom of radiator is cold.

First time it happened I decided to get the thermostat replaced.

Second time, I added coolant and gave the pipes a squeeze, which must've dislodged some air, because it started working again.

Last night, I heard a few bubbles as usual and had heat as usual, but about 5 mins into the journey I gave it some welly up a hill, lost hot air and the engine started to overheat again.

After a 5 min rest, I started the engine and heard LOADS of air bubbles circulate.

Any ideas folks?

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post Jan 30, 2013 - 11:13 AM
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When I fire up the engine I've noticed that it over-revs until I can hear the bubbles move through.

Could that be a pump issue?

Also I've noticed that if I drive with the heat all the way up, it will be cold for the first 4 mins of the journey and then suddenly (like in 3 seconds) start coming through hot.
post Jan 30, 2013 - 6:24 PM
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QUOTE (80gumdrops @ Jan 30, 2013 - 9:13 AM) *
When I fire up the engine I've noticed that it over-revs until I can hear the bubbles move through.

Could that be a pump issue?

Also I've noticed that if I drive with the heat all the way up, it will be cold for the first 4 mins of the journey and then suddenly (like in 3 seconds) start coming through hot.


That sudden switch-over isn't really a surprise if your thermostat is working well; the temperature of the water in the radiator has to hit a certain point, at which the wax in the thermostat transitions from liquid to solid and you get flow back into the engine -- and thus into the heater core. Any bubbles trapped in the heater core would prevent heat transfer from the engine to the core (and thus to the cabin air) until they were moved out by a strong enough flow of coolant.

The engine is designed to run at higher RPMs when cold.

Toyota designed the system to be self-bleeding, as long as you have a properly calibrated radiator cap and the appropriate amount of coolant in the reservoir bottle. If the overflow bottle's not properly filled the system will suck up air as it cools and the coolant condenses. What this means is that over time any bubbles should work themselves out; manual bleeding is to get the worst of the air out quickly so that you don't have to keep adding coolant to replace the volume of air removed.

Posts in this topic
- 80gumdrops   Coolant System Problem   Jan 16, 2013 - 4:27 AM
- - yagamius   QUOTE (80gumdrops @ Jan 16, 2013 - 3...   Jan 16, 2013 - 6:28 AM
- - richee3   Your coolant system is also air locked. Park the c...   Jan 16, 2013 - 6:46 AM
- - Special_Edy   Do you have to periodically refill the coolant sys...   Jan 16, 2013 - 10:55 AM
- - nsxtypeR   Check your radiatorcap. If this is worn, it causes...   Jan 16, 2013 - 2:37 PM
- - trdproven   Radiator cap, leaking headgasket, thermostat is wh...   Jan 16, 2013 - 7:33 PM
- - Taz   Id try replacing the rad cap and leave it idle for...   Jan 16, 2013 - 7:54 PM
- - trdproven   with a radiator cap off, a good sign its a hg is w...   Jan 21, 2013 - 7:49 AM
- - 80gumdrops   When I fire up the engine I've noticed that it...   Jan 30, 2013 - 11:13 AM
|- - xrav22   QUOTE (80gumdrops @ Jan 30, 2013 - 12...   Jan 30, 2013 - 1:16 PM
||- - trdproven   QUOTE (xrav22 @ Jan 31, 2013 - 4:16 ...   Jan 31, 2013 - 5:45 PM
|- - Galcobar   QUOTE (80gumdrops @ Jan 30, 2013 - 9...   Jan 30, 2013 - 6:24 PM
- - Smaay   as long as its not leaking, you dont need to chang...   Jan 30, 2013 - 1:26 PM
- - delusionz   also sounds like the cooling system is full of gun...   Jan 30, 2013 - 3:22 PM
- - 80gumdrops   Okay, the top pipe is hot and under pressure, so t...   Feb 11, 2013 - 1:15 PM
- - Galcobar   If the main symptom is that your heater core isn...   Feb 11, 2013 - 4:02 PM
- - bsamps4   Check your cooling system for bubbles. If your coo...   Feb 11, 2013 - 5:22 PM
- - 80gumdrops   Just had a head gasket sniff test. Head gasket is ...   Feb 12, 2013 - 10:11 AM
- - mkernz22   you should always fill your radiator up through th...   Feb 12, 2013 - 1:00 PM
- - Outsider   I had to change my radiator due to it cracking(was...   Feb 12, 2013 - 6:07 PM
|- - Galcobar   QUOTE (Outsider @ Feb 12, 2013 - 3:0...   Feb 12, 2013 - 8:22 PM
|- - mickeyc   QUOTE (Outsider @ Feb 12, 2013 - 6:0...   Sep 24, 2016 - 9:05 AM
- - cyb593   NEW BUMP!! I know this thread is old but i...   Feb 13, 2013 - 6:52 PM
- - 80gumdrops   Nailed it. It was an air lock somewhere by the hea...   Feb 15, 2013 - 8:54 AM
- - Bitter   Put the front end of the car up and let it idle wi...   Sep 27, 2016 - 9:16 PM
- - trdproven   all you gotta do is elevate the front end to make ...   Sep 28, 2016 - 12:06 AM


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