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post Jan 31, 2013 - 7:58 AM
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3rd gen 3sge does anyone know the recommended octane? Or most likely RON since it's not a US engine? I've been bashing my brains in trying to figure out this problem and refuse to go to another race with it. After about 30 hard miles 5k RPM.... the engine starts cutting out lower and lower in the RPM range until I cant rev over 4k RPMS.

I've been running 87 octane, i'm thinking the knock sensor could be detecting something and slowly pulling timing.




If this is the case i'm an idiot, and created a lot of headache for a stupid easy fix.... just sucks cause there's no easy way to test it.

This post has been edited by czwalga: Jan 31, 2013 - 8:10 AM


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post Feb 1, 2013 - 12:42 PM
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CR, fuel/air ratio, octane and ignition advance are all codependant factors. Most ecu's will retard the ignition until the predetonation stops. If you put a higher octane in the car the ecu will actually advance the ignition. to utilize it until it detects detonation.
Its similar to how the engine determines the fuel trim, it constantly fluctuates between lean and rich to pinpoint the best trim. The ecu is constantly testing the limit of the ignition advance for maximum performance without detonation.
Putting a lower octane in shouldn't negatively impact an EFI motor except for a slight loss of torque. Raising the octane will marginally increase output.

Check the plugs for color, if they are pitting then you have a problem.

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- czwalga   3sge (3rd gen) Octane?   Jan 31, 2013 - 7:58 AM
- - Ted95   Have you tried 93? I know the 3rd gen 3sgte will o...   Jan 31, 2013 - 9:14 AM
- - richee3   The compression ratio is 10.3:1, so I'd run at...   Jan 31, 2013 - 2:24 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   i know 4th gen 3sge needs 93 octane(98-100ron) so...   Jan 31, 2013 - 5:07 PM
- - delusionz   this is EXACTLY what my car started doin... I thr...   Jan 31, 2013 - 7:09 PM
- - delusionz   as for octane. its 100RON on any *-GE JDM ecu in ...   Jan 31, 2013 - 7:17 PM
- - czwalga   Well... i was able to go out on the highway for ab...   Jan 31, 2013 - 7:44 PM
- - Special_Edy   CR, fuel/air ratio, octane and ignition advance ar...   Feb 1, 2013 - 12:42 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Feb 1, 2013 - 12...   Feb 1, 2013 - 3:16 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   the octane fuel booster don't do crap! th...   Feb 1, 2013 - 2:57 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Feb 1, 2013 - 2...   Feb 1, 2013 - 3:03 PM
- - czwalga   Filled with 93 + the race fuel... still didnt fix ...   Feb 2, 2013 - 11:11 AM
- - richee3   Could the fuel pump be overheating? Not sure what ...   Feb 2, 2013 - 11:10 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (richee3 @ Feb 2, 2013 - 11:10...   Feb 3, 2013 - 8:45 AM
- - Special_Edy   You need to get the engine to manifest the problem...   Feb 3, 2013 - 12:29 PM
|- - czwalga   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Feb 3, 2013 - 1...   Feb 3, 2013 - 7:51 PM
- - Rusty   firstly czwalga got your pm sorry for the late rep...   Feb 4, 2013 - 1:01 AM
- - czwalga   QUOTE (Rusty @ Feb 4, 2013 - 1:01 AM...   Feb 4, 2013 - 10:42 AM


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