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post Feb 5, 2013 - 1:34 PM
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Hey everyone, I own a 94 Celica ST with the 7afe motor in it. I have 4k to throw into this car and want to redo to handle boost and hopefully generate some great hp with it. I have basically every piece of parts i need gathered but still need a little help on some topics. Here are the parts I have so far:

1) 4age forged pistons still keeping it at 9.0:1.
2) forged 7afe H beam rods
3) stock crank
4) Bored out cyclinders
5) t2 turbo kit
6) aem piggy back
7) boost gauge
8) colder spark plugs
9) 440cc injectors
10) 12.1:1 FMU
11) 255 fuel pump
12) wide band o2 sensor and gauge

The thing ive been thinking about is, Do i need a different crank to handle the extra stress that i will be putting on this motor? some people online are saying its forged and the other half are saying its not forged. So does anyone know for sure which one it is??

I have no idea how much power i will be able to generate with this setup but it will be towed to the dyno shop as soon as the build is complete. Of course i wanna make sure everything is able to handle the boost ima be shoving into it. I have no idea on how much boost i will be able to run, hopefully 15psi or more depending on what the dyno people do. I have never turbod a 7afe before only did hyundai tiburons before this, but i did do tons of research on the 7afe, but still have some remaining questions.

Also does anyone know what else will be needed to do to sqeeze the most power out of this motor as i can? without doing a swap of any kind. Also it will be nice to know if anyone has a similar build and see what kind of numbers they are generating.

Thanks.

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post Feb 7, 2013 - 4:11 PM
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Transmissions don't handle HP, and cars don't produce HP.

With that said, I know of an MR-2 1ZZ turbo with around 300-320 whee torque with aftermarket LSD doing hard launches and using Nitto drag radials. He does 11.8s 1/4 mile. C-series transmissions are not weak by any means (except C60 which is the ****ty 6-gear that comes with the Corolla XRS or Celica GT-S; those break on stock 2ZZ power)

He has never had to do anything to the transmission and it's been well over 2 years turbo, 260-280-320 wtq across its life.

@OP: You should've fit an LSD if you had the transmission out. However since it's already done, the most important component in making power is the tuning solution. If you don't have proper tuning you can break even the best forged engine.

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post Feb 7, 2013 - 4:27 PM
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QUOTE (Syaoran @ Feb 7, 2013 - 4:11 PM) *
Transmissions don't handle HP, and cars don't produce HP.

With that said, I know of an MR-2 1ZZ turbo with around 300-320 whee torque with aftermarket LSD doing hard launches and using Nitto drag radials. He does 11.8s 1/4 mile. C-series transmissions are not weak by any means (except C60 which is the ****ty 6-gear that comes with the Corolla XRS or Celica GT-S; those break on stock 2ZZ power)

He has never had to do anything to the transmission and it's been well over 2 years turbo, 260-280-320 wtq across its life.

@OP: You should've fit an LSD if you had the transmission out. However since it's already done, the most important component in making power is the tuning solution. If you don't have proper tuning you can break even the best forged engine.


Your right they handle torque but i am lost on what your trying to say about cars not producing HP, could you clarify this for me????

Also that's awesome to hear! Seems like I should do alright then. But yes your absolutely correct! A good tune is a must! I will be taking my car to a dyno shop to get it tuned as soon as I get this build complete.

And now I never looked into a limited slip differential for these cars, that idea never even hit me, Could it be done to these front wheel drive celicas? specifically the ST??

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- rapid36   Building the 7afe to handle boost   Feb 5, 2013 - 1:34 PM
- - mkernz22   Everything you will ever need to know http://www....   Feb 5, 2013 - 2:20 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Feb 5, 2013 - 2:20...   Feb 5, 2013 - 3:21 PM
- - Smaay   actually the 1MZ weighs about the same as a 7A-FE....   Feb 5, 2013 - 3:25 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 5, 2013 - 3:25 PM...   Feb 5, 2013 - 3:31 PM
- - mkernz22   Click the link to the thread I posted, you might e...   Feb 5, 2013 - 5:34 PM
- - Smaay   the 7A is cast Iron. the MZ is Aluminum. I can eas...   Feb 5, 2013 - 6:37 PM
- - rapid36   oh ok, well i already bought most of the parts tha...   Feb 6, 2013 - 11:16 AM
- - Smaay   tell me more about this transmission you have, wha...   Feb 6, 2013 - 12:09 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 6, 2013 - 12:09 P...   Feb 6, 2013 - 1:59 PM
- - mkernz22   Just because the clutch can handle up to 400hp doe...   Feb 6, 2013 - 3:06 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Feb 6, 2013 - 3:06...   Feb 6, 2013 - 4:09 PM
- - mkernz22   I didn't know what your power goals were, but ...   Feb 6, 2013 - 4:57 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Feb 6, 2013 - 4:57...   Feb 6, 2013 - 5:50 PM
- - Syaoran   Transmissions don't handle HP, and cars don...   Feb 7, 2013 - 4:11 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Feb 7, 2013 - 1:11 ...   Feb 7, 2013 - 4:23 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Feb 7, 2013 - 4:11 ...   Feb 7, 2013 - 4:27 PM
- - Syaoran   HP is a measure of torque multiplied by the RPM wh...   Feb 7, 2013 - 5:12 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Feb 7, 2013 - 5:12 ...   Feb 7, 2013 - 5:22 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Feb 7, 2013 - 2:12 ...   Feb 7, 2013 - 6:16 PM
- - rapid36   So does anyone know if i will need a forged crank ...   Feb 8, 2013 - 11:04 AM
- - Smaay   stock crank is fine. i dont think the 4A pistons a...   Feb 9, 2013 - 4:28 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 9, 2013 - 4:28 PM...   Feb 11, 2013 - 1:17 PM
- - Smaay   i still no point in sinking all that money into a ...   Feb 11, 2013 - 1:26 PM
|- - rapid36   QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 11, 2013 - 2:26 P...   Feb 11, 2013 - 5:56 PM
|- - mgnt232   you can buy a 3s clip for like 3-4k and push quite...   Feb 11, 2013 - 6:35 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (rapid36 @ Feb 11, 2013 - 2:56...   Feb 11, 2013 - 9:56 PM
- - celica74   If your looking to get 300hp out of a 7a your look...   Feb 11, 2013 - 9:56 PM
- - rapid36   QUOTE (celica74 @ Feb 11, 2013 - 10...   Feb 12, 2013 - 11:26 AM
- - mgnt232   I think everyone gets it what your going for. And ...   Feb 12, 2013 - 1:19 PM
- - rapid36   QUOTE (mgnt232 @ Feb 12, 2013 - 1:19...   Feb 12, 2013 - 4:53 PM
- - mgnt232   >click here< That link is to pressure2 (a mo...   Feb 12, 2013 - 7:07 PM
- - rapid36   QUOTE (mgnt232 @ Feb 12, 2013 - 8:07...   Feb 13, 2013 - 11:20 AM


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