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> USDM 96 Celica ST Engine swap to 3S-GTE Gen3 HELP, need help deciding what to do
post Jan 17, 2013 - 11:10 PM
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KADE

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I like everyone else on this forum love the celica and like most of you, I want more out of what the stock motor can offer (without throwing lots of cash at it)
What I have is a Cherry Red 1996 Celica Liftback 2.2L w/5-speed transmission with 220,000 miles on it, a few months ago the engine started to finally show signs that it was ready for the ol scrapyard.
Given that I have grown attached to the car and I DEFINITELY NEVER want to give it up i decided that I would like to take this opportunity to put the 3S-GTE GenIII motor into it in place of the stock engine (5S-FE i believe)
I opted for the Gen3 motor because it already comes water cooled (based on a couple months research) and comes right out of the same chasis frame as my vehicle AT200 / ST205.... (if theres a difference between the two please correct me.)
now here's where my mechanical ignorance kicks in, I'm not in anyway a mechanic nor am I experienced in that field and I'm hoping that some of you more experienced mech's can help me make the right decision(s)
I have lucked out and gotten a decent deal on a set of parts as listed

Parts I currently have

3S-GTE (complete motor, CUT wiring harness mad.gif )
Front Mounted Intercooler
Engine mounts
E-153 tranny + LSD (ALready connected to the motor with Clutch, Flywheel etc...)
GT-4 Axles (I Just recently discovered do NOT mount up to the E-153 LSD transmission)
ECU

The things I don't currently have but I do intend on adding before the swap starts

Walboro 400lph fuel pump
Act 6 puck Racing/Street Clutch kit with 300 lb/ft torque sealing
3" Exhaust + Flowmaster Delta 40 mmuffler
GT Shift Cables (I read up and they are needed for this swap to work)
ST205 rear transmission mount bracket
Booste Gauge (Aftermarket)
MR-2/Camry Axle

Now heres where things get confusing for me, I'm not the one who is doing the swap but I am paying a professional mechanic to do it so I want to make sure that he has EVERYTHING needed and that there wont be any SURPRISES!!!
I have been researching a lot over the months and I know people prefer the front clip style swap but I didn't have that available especially not for the deal I got. I know a lot of people will frown upon doing things this way but I do ask for your patience and any and all HELPFUL and encouraging advice some of you who have undergone this may have.
If there are any parts needed that I did not have listed or I CAN'T remove from my stock motor please let me know.

This post has been edited by KADE: Jan 17, 2013 - 11:18 PM
 
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post Feb 19, 2013 - 3:09 PM
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Though it looks like 7A-FE, the intake manifold and heat shield over exhaust manifold are different than mine.

It could be that this engine was swapped from some other Toyota car, that uses the 7A-FE engine in a bit different making, or it could be a hybrid engine, but I'm unaware of engines from A family that could be combined with 7A-FE header...

Also... there are some cables running over the engine (at the solenoids) that were supposed to go around the engine - looks to me like some sloppy engine swap

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- KADE   USDM 96 Celica ST Engine swap to 3S-GTE Gen3 HELP   Jan 17, 2013 - 11:10 PM
- - mkernz22   For one, you need to creat hybrid axles using MR2 ...   Jan 17, 2013 - 11:40 PM
|- - KADE   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Jan 17, 2013 - 11...   Jan 17, 2013 - 11:53 PM
- - Smaay   if you have a GT with a 2.2 5S-FE then you do not ...   Jan 18, 2013 - 12:40 PM
|- - KADE   QUOTE (Smaay @ Jan 18, 2013 - 12:40 ...   Jan 18, 2013 - 2:00 PM
- - richee3   Other ways to tell that it's a GT is if it has...   Jan 18, 2013 - 2:16 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   its an at200 chassis   Jan 18, 2013 - 2:28 PM
- - KADE   I took a look at the stock spokes and it is a 5-Bo...   Jan 18, 2013 - 2:47 PM
- - njccmd2002   the 25th anniversary package may give it some GT f...   Jan 18, 2013 - 3:37 PM
- - KADE   That's alright, nothing to be sorry about I...   Jan 18, 2013 - 3:56 PM
- - Smaay   actually you dont. the ST cables are slightly long...   Jan 18, 2013 - 4:15 PM
- - mkernz22   If you get us some pictures of the car we can defi...   Jan 18, 2013 - 6:12 PM
- - KADE   I'll get some pics for you guys as soon as I c...   Jan 18, 2013 - 10:06 PM
- - blackliftback   Sounds like you have an st but insurance is cheati...   Jan 19, 2013 - 5:02 AM
|- - KADE   QUOTE (blackliftback @ Jan 19, 2013 - 6...   Jan 20, 2013 - 7:30 PM
- - richee3   Give this thread a good read. http://www.6gc.net...   Jan 20, 2013 - 10:01 PM
- - KADE   I managed to get the pictures for you guys, so the...   Jan 24, 2013 - 10:12 AM
- - rave2n   7AFE ST model.   Jan 24, 2013 - 11:57 AM
- - CrossCudi   QUOTE (rave2n @ Jan 24, 2013 - 12:57...   Feb 19, 2013 - 2:41 PM
- - CrossCudi   QUOTE (CrossCudi @ Feb 19, 2013 - 3...   Feb 19, 2013 - 2:45 PM
- - Nihil   Though it looks like 7A-FE, the intake manifold an...   Feb 19, 2013 - 3:09 PM
- - TwistedCeli94   Two Things: 1: im almost positive you cannot use ...   Feb 24, 2013 - 4:13 PM


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