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post Mar 30, 2013 - 8:02 PM
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i have a 2nd gen 3sgte swapped in a 1995 celica. i installed an aem digital boost gauge. i have the gauge grounded properly an the positive side is connected to the radio fuse. i tried tapping into to locations to get a vacuum reading. first the map sensor line and second on the timing belt side of the the engine, on the intake manifold. i get wrong readings in both cases. i check the aem pressure sensor and everything checks out fine. any suggestion, or wisdom is greatly appreciated.


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post Mar 30, 2013 - 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 3:02 PM) *
i have a 2nd gen 3sgte swapped in a 1995 celica. i installed an aem digital boost gauge. i have the gauge grounded properly an the positive side is connected to the radio fuse. i tried tapping into to locations to get a vacuum reading. first the map sensor line and second on the timing belt side of the the engine, on the intake manifold. i get wrong readings in both cases. i check the aem pressure sensor and everything checks out fine. any suggestion, or wisdom is greatly appreciated.


you shouldn't tap into the map sensor line. The map sensor needs a dedicated vacuum source to output the correct voltage to the ecu based off of the pressure. Most things that connect to vacuum will have a pressure sensing disk thing or shifting diaphragm that will change the vacuum/boost on the map sensor(or boost gauge), and thus change the voltage reading that the map sensor outputs based off the vacuum/boost. I'm not saying that this is the culprit for your incorrect readings on your boost gauge, but it does need a dedicated line to get the most accurate reading.

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post Mar 30, 2013 - 10:49 PM
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yea i switched it to the other side of the intake manifold.


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post Mar 30, 2013 - 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 5:49 PM) *
yea i switched it to the other side of the intake manifold.


in theory, the center of the intake manifold is supposed to output the most correct reading since it is equally affected by all cylinders, I don't have a way to test that, but it makes sense. I have my map running off the side because I'm about 1 foot short of hose, but I plan on moving it to the center. I believe the 5sfe had the map sensor hose going into the manifold close to the center, and I found a nipple on the center-bottom-rear of my gen3 3sgte manifold that was the same size of the map sensor manifold port...since I bought the engine in parts I don't know what went there though. Since the boost gauge is just for looking at and not for the computer to read I would put it on it's own vac source near center.

You could always drill and tap a 1/8 npt threaded hole and put a new nipple on, just connect an air compressor line to an open vac port and have a friend blow puffs of air out every couple seconds so you don't get aluminum in the engine. smile.gif

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95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other
01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished
02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve

Posts in this topic
- garin   boost gauge help   Mar 30, 2013 - 8:02 PM
- - Syaoran   Use any nipple from the intake manifold. What do y...   Mar 30, 2013 - 8:21 PM
|- - garin   it reads 22 psi at idle... not 22 inhg. im thinkin...   Mar 30, 2013 - 8:24 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 9:24 P...   Mar 30, 2013 - 9:42 PM
|- - garin   i suppose that is good advice. only got this one t...   Mar 30, 2013 - 9:47 PM
|- - garin   still no luck when the car is on, but not running ...   Mar 30, 2013 - 10:35 PM
- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 3:02 P...   Mar 30, 2013 - 10:39 PM
|- - garin   yea i switched it to the other side of the intake ...   Mar 30, 2013 - 10:49 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 5:49 P...   Mar 30, 2013 - 11:04 PM
- - garin   but would that cause the gauge to read 22psi at id...   Mar 30, 2013 - 11:12 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 6:12 P...   Mar 30, 2013 - 11:24 PM
|- - garin   there is no selector switch on the back. i figure...   Mar 31, 2013 - 8:10 AM
|- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 31, 2013 - 3:10 A...   Mar 31, 2013 - 6:44 PM
|- - garin   these gauges seem to be nice, but quirky at the sa...   Apr 1, 2013 - 6:06 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Apr 1, 2013 - 1:06 PM...   Apr 1, 2013 - 6:40 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (garin @ Apr 1, 2013 - 7:06 PM...   Apr 2, 2013 - 12:03 PM
|- - garin   QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 2, 2013 - 1:03 PM...   Apr 3, 2013 - 8:41 AM
- - Smaay   for future reference, almost all digital/electrica...   Apr 3, 2013 - 9:00 AM
|- - garin   i know. i powered it to to radio fuse... didn...   Apr 3, 2013 - 9:27 AM
|- - chrismru   Hello friends...Hey any1 can help me on an st205 s...   Apr 15, 2013 - 3:04 AM
- - 83841   im using AEM (psi) Boost gauge which works flawles...   Apr 15, 2013 - 12:18 PM
- - paul52   im about to buy an aem tru boost controller'? ...   Aug 19, 2013 - 11:02 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (paul52 @ Aug 19, 2013 - 6:02 ...   Aug 19, 2013 - 11:35 PM
- - lagos   You really can't beat a basic manual boost con...   Aug 20, 2013 - 8:52 AM


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