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post Mar 30, 2013 - 8:02 PM
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i have a 2nd gen 3sgte swapped in a 1995 celica. i installed an aem digital boost gauge. i have the gauge grounded properly an the positive side is connected to the radio fuse. i tried tapping into to locations to get a vacuum reading. first the map sensor line and second on the timing belt side of the the engine, on the intake manifold. i get wrong readings in both cases. i check the aem pressure sensor and everything checks out fine. any suggestion, or wisdom is greatly appreciated.


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post Mar 30, 2013 - 11:12 PM
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but would that cause the gauge to read 22psi at idle?


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post Mar 30, 2013 - 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 6:12 PM) *
but would that cause the gauge to read 22psi at idle?


are you sure it's psi and not kpa? my car is 33 kpa at idle according the the autronic display. If your aem boost gauge is like my aem wideband gauge (which I want to sell if anyone is interested) it has a selector switch on the back where you can change the output to the gauge display or to the aftermarket ecu that you are running


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95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other
01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished
02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve
post Mar 31, 2013 - 8:10 AM
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there is no selector switch on the back.

i figured it out. i used the ignition fuse for power. i just uninstalled everything and rewired it. everything works now. power has to be constant, because the gauge calibrates itself at each key turn. not sure if im s fan of these gauges.

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post Mar 31, 2013 - 6:44 PM
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QUOTE (garin @ Mar 31, 2013 - 3:10 AM) *
there is no selector switch on the back.

i figured it out. i used the ignition fuse for power. i just uninstalled everything and rewired it. everything works now. power has to be constant, because the gauge calibrates itself at each key turn. not sure if im s fan of these gauges.


My aem wideband controller/gauge is the same way. I had it wired to a ignition switched power source and it takes a couple seconds to come on before it shows the a/f ratio, so now I turn it on before I turn the car on. I like certain things about it, but I have my eye on another one that has signal and signal ground output wires for aftermarket ecus. The output of mine is inaccurate without the signal ground.


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95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other
01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished
02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve
post Apr 1, 2013 - 6:06 PM
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these gauges seem to be nice, but quirky at the same time.


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post Apr 1, 2013 - 6:40 PM
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QUOTE (garin @ Apr 1, 2013 - 1:06 PM) *
these gauges seem to be nice, but quirky at the same time.


yeah, I like the look. But as a high quality wideband meter it sucks. I never thought of AEM being incredible, just something that gets the job done, their aftermarket ecus have a lot of dumb tuning flaws but can still be worked with by AEM tuners that know how to work with them. The wideband meter has a signal out, but since it doesn't have a signal ground output then aftermarket ecus cannot accurately determine the voltage output of the sensor. The more expensive wideband controllers output a signal positive and a signal negative. It isn't a big deal on the gauge, the gauge displays an accurate reading since it reads a positive and negative signal from the wideband sensor, and the data log output will be accurate, but the signal output to the ecu is wrong. My autronic reading is always +/- 1 on the air/fuel gauge depending on whether or not I have the headlights on. Also, since i'm running individual coils on my engine, they will pull more electricity at higher rpms, further affecting my air/fuel ratio by changing the overall voltage. It is irritating that the AEM wideband controller is made so crappily. It seems that the signal output is only a selling point and not really a fully functional unit. Again it works great when not feeding my autronic, but sucks on a car that requires accuracy.

I would imagine that the boost gauge is made with the same "love and care" and has flaws of its own.


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95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other
01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished
02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve

Posts in this topic
- garin   boost gauge help   Mar 30, 2013 - 8:02 PM
- - Syaoran   Use any nipple from the intake manifold. What do y...   Mar 30, 2013 - 8:21 PM
|- - garin   it reads 22 psi at idle... not 22 inhg. im thinkin...   Mar 30, 2013 - 8:24 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 9:24 P...   Mar 30, 2013 - 9:42 PM
|- - garin   i suppose that is good advice. only got this one t...   Mar 30, 2013 - 9:47 PM
|- - garin   still no luck when the car is on, but not running ...   Mar 30, 2013 - 10:35 PM
- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 3:02 P...   Mar 30, 2013 - 10:39 PM
|- - garin   yea i switched it to the other side of the intake ...   Mar 30, 2013 - 10:49 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 5:49 P...   Mar 30, 2013 - 11:04 PM
- - garin   but would that cause the gauge to read 22psi at id...   Mar 30, 2013 - 11:12 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 30, 2013 - 6:12 P...   Mar 30, 2013 - 11:24 PM
|- - garin   there is no selector switch on the back. i figure...   Mar 31, 2013 - 8:10 AM
|- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Mar 31, 2013 - 3:10 A...   Mar 31, 2013 - 6:44 PM
|- - garin   these gauges seem to be nice, but quirky at the sa...   Apr 1, 2013 - 6:06 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (garin @ Apr 1, 2013 - 1:06 PM...   Apr 1, 2013 - 6:40 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (garin @ Apr 1, 2013 - 7:06 PM...   Apr 2, 2013 - 12:03 PM
|- - garin   QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 2, 2013 - 1:03 PM...   Apr 3, 2013 - 8:41 AM
- - Smaay   for future reference, almost all digital/electrica...   Apr 3, 2013 - 9:00 AM
|- - garin   i know. i powered it to to radio fuse... didn...   Apr 3, 2013 - 9:27 AM
|- - chrismru   Hello friends...Hey any1 can help me on an st205 s...   Apr 15, 2013 - 3:04 AM
- - 83841   im using AEM (psi) Boost gauge which works flawles...   Apr 15, 2013 - 12:18 PM
- - paul52   im about to buy an aem tru boost controller'? ...   Aug 19, 2013 - 11:02 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (paul52 @ Aug 19, 2013 - 6:02 ...   Aug 19, 2013 - 11:35 PM
- - lagos   You really can't beat a basic manual boost con...   Aug 20, 2013 - 8:52 AM


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