 GT or ST Swap? |
 Mar 29, 2013 - 1:02 AM
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Hey guys, so I'm gonna be doin an ST205 Swap this summer. I already have the motor and all the parts, now I have to choose from a celica GT or a celica ST. I will be getting an ST, but I also have access to a GT. Any ideas on which one would be easier? I know the ST I have to drill a hole for the GT motor mounts, but I dont believe that would be that hard. I also heard the wire for the fan is different for the ST but that shouldnt be too hard either. Is there anything else I should be considering? I also plan to do a GT Four brakes conversion, idk if the difficulty changes on the ST model because of the drum brakes. ST is a 94 so I wont have to worry about OBD II to get my emissions done where I live, the 97 GT however I do have to worry about it. Trying to weigh the pros and cons, any suggestions?
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Apr 2, 2013 - 2:34 PM
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You need the radiator and hoses to match the engine. If you have the GT the radiator, and I imagine the hoses, would work with the 3S engine. Though most people just go ahead and get an aftermarket radiator and hoses anyway.
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Apr 2, 2013 - 2:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 29, '09 From Gainesville, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) |
QUOTE (Box @ Apr 2, 2013 - 2:34 PM)  You need the radiator and hoses to match the engine. If you have the GT the radiator, and I imagine the hoses, would work with the 3S engine. Though most people just go ahead and get an aftermarket radiator and hoses anyway. No... The GT or ST - The AT200, or ST202 radiators will not work with a 3sgte engine. They are to small. You need a ST205, or 50mm alum. radiator! With respectable hoses for said engine. The inlet and outlet on the rads are the same, but the location of the water necks on the engine are located in different areas. You can use a ST205 rad on a 5sfe, or 7afe powered engine..just not the other way around. Edit: What engine are you swapping into your vehicle? I see ST205 which is a 3sgte, and then I see a ST204 which I believe is a 3sge...makes a big diff. This post has been edited by rave2n: Apr 2, 2013 - 2:43 PM |
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Apr 2, 2013 - 2:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 25, '09 From Utah Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (rave2n @ Apr 2, 2013 - 3:41 PM) QUOTE (Box @ Apr 2, 2013 - 2:34 PM) You need the radiator and hoses to match the engine. If you have the GT the radiator, and I imagine the hoses, would work with the 3S engine. Though most people just go ahead and get an aftermarket radiator and hoses anyway. No... The GT or ST - The AT200, or ST202 radiators will not work with a 3sgte engine. They are to small. You need a ST205, or 50mm alum. radiator! With respectable hoses for said engine. The inlet and outlet on the rads are the same, but the location of the water necks on the engine are located in different areas. You can use a ST205 rad on a 5sfe, or 7afe powered engine..just not the other way around. Edit: What engine are you swapping into your vehicle? I see ST205 which is a 3sgte, and then I see a ST204 which I believe is a 3sge...makes a big diff. ST204 is the 5sfe, but I will be swapping the ST205 into the AT200 (7afe). But I do have the ST205 front clip, which means I can just use the radiator from the clip for my swap right? |
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Apr 2, 2013 - 2:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 29, '09 From Gainesville, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) |
QUOTE (Chinosan89 @ Apr 2, 2013 - 3:46 PM) QUOTE (rave2n @ Apr 2, 2013 - 3:41 PM) QUOTE (Box @ Apr 2, 2013 - 2:34 PM) You need the radiator and hoses to match the engine. If you have the GT the radiator, and I imagine the hoses, would work with the 3S engine. Though most people just go ahead and get an aftermarket radiator and hoses anyway. No... The GT or ST - The AT200, or ST202 radiators will not work with a 3sgte engine. They are to small. You need a ST205, or 50mm alum. radiator! With respectable hoses for said engine. The inlet and outlet on the rads are the same, but the location of the water necks on the engine are located in different areas. You can use a ST205 rad on a 5sfe, or 7afe powered engine..just not the other way around. Edit: What engine are you swapping into your vehicle? I see ST205 which is a 3sgte, and then I see a ST204 which I believe is a 3sge...makes a big diff. ST204 is the 5sfe, but I will be swapping the ST205 into the AT200 (7afe). But I do have the ST205 front clip, which means I can just use the radiator from the clip for my swap right? OOoooooook I'm on page now. Yes you can use the rad from your clip, and hoses for the AT200 to ST205 swap. Same mount points, just the top brackets from the ST205 clip may be larger, requiring to use those. |
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Chinosan89 GT or ST Swap? Mar 29, 2013 - 1:02 AM
Box Find a 94-95 GT for the swap, would make life a li... Mar 29, 2013 - 4:07 AM
soulshadow QUOTE (Box @ Mar 29, 2013 - 4:07 AM)... Mar 29, 2013 - 5:03 AM
njccmd2002 QUOTE (Box @ Mar 29, 2013 - 4:07 AM)... Mar 29, 2013 - 9:59 AM Box QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Mar 29, 2013 - 9... Mar 29, 2013 - 1:54 PM mkernz22 you would need a transmission too and the GT one b... Mar 29, 2013 - 8:12 AM rave2n I personally would just do the ST, specifically fo... Mar 29, 2013 - 9:02 AM lagos GET A GT.
The ST is a pain and extra money. Radi... Mar 29, 2013 - 9:55 AM Chinosan89 Actually I have mostly everything. I've got a ... Mar 29, 2013 - 9:58 AM rave2n QUOTE (Chinosan89 @ Mar 29, 2013 - 10... Mar 29, 2013 - 11:24 AM Chinosan89 I'll see if I can find a gt by summer and use ... Mar 29, 2013 - 1:07 PM Chinosan89 Hey can I just use the radiator from the st205 cli... Apr 1, 2013 - 8:44 PM Malek You can use the 3s radiator for your 3s swap.
Unl... Apr 1, 2013 - 9:39 PM Box ST205 and ST202 shares the same radiator. Well, a... Apr 1, 2013 - 9:56 PM rave2n QUOTE (Box @ Apr 1, 2013 - 9:56 PM) ... Apr 2, 2013 - 12:17 PM Chinosan89 QUOTE (rave2n @ Apr 2, 2013 - 12:17 ... Apr 2, 2013 - 2:21 PM Box Mounting was the same then. All I know is that Mi... Apr 2, 2013 - 1:27 PM Box QUOTE (rave2n @ Apr 2, 2013 - 2:41 P... Apr 2, 2013 - 9:46 PM Chinosan89 Alright suhweet!!! Ok thats good news,... Apr 2, 2013 - 3:08 PM rave2n QUOTE (Chinosan89 @ Apr 2, 2013 - 3... Apr 2, 2013 - 3:20 PM |
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