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post Jul 22, 2013 - 3:26 AM
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Hi, can I ask those who have had experience in this what kind of ratios they expect to see runnning their 5sfte or 3sftes?

I have a wideband, which fluctuates around 14.2 to 15.3 at idle, and 13.5 - 15.1/2 ish off boost runs. The AEM wideband gauge does continually fluctuate though, going through various ranges constantly.

I did do boost run to see, and was measuring 12-13s on WOT. Only 2 runs as not sorted det cans yet so not monitoring detonation. No more boost runs till I work on that.

This is using 295cc injectors, stock pressure. I do have 460cc injectors available too, as well as an afpr, and have emanage blue fitted.

What is the expected values and also, should my wideband be CONSTANTLY fluctuating ? As I will have issues with street tuning as it is never on one value for long ? Or do you guys look for a range?

Any experience would be gratefully received and listened to.

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post Jul 23, 2013 - 7:05 AM
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I think you should be using the adjustable fuel reg anyways for its rising rate.


I'm not sure how the emanage works, I'm guessing it uses its own map sensor and it works by constantly feeding garbage to the stock ecu with +/- corrections

So if you increase your fuel supply, then take off from emanage you will reduce fuel but increase ignition as you hit a lower loadpoint on the map. Perhaps reduce your distributor advance a bit, in diagnostic mode set 8 deg advance


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post Jul 23, 2013 - 1:54 PM
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OP: Stop. I gotta say this again but your e-manage will be your limiting factor. Keep adding more and more stuff to the e-manage and you'll be way over what a Megasquirt would cost you. You're going to end up having paid over $400 if you add the internal map, the injector harness and then you're going to want to add the ignition control too and, lo and behold, you're still fighting the OEM ecu running a piggyback.

Lower your boost. Keep the 295cc injectors, and save for a standalone (be it megasquirt or not). You're going to end up blowing your engine soon enough if you don't, like everybody else has.


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Posts in this topic
- digs   3SFTE A/F Ratio advice   Jul 22, 2013 - 3:26 AM
- - Smaay   12 is good, high 11s are better. 13s are lean for ...   Jul 22, 2013 - 12:02 PM
- - Syaoran   Ideally you want anywhere from 11:1 to 11.5:1 AFR....   Jul 22, 2013 - 2:35 PM
- - digs   Thats guys. Running on 99 octane (UK RON)...not su...   Jul 22, 2013 - 3:13 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (digs @ Jul 22, 2013 - 4:13 PM...   Jul 22, 2013 - 9:30 PM
- - digs   Have fitted a 255 lb fuel pump so have that side c...   Jul 22, 2013 - 11:29 PM
- - Syaoran   Oh I see... that emanage will be your weak link. ...   Jul 23, 2013 - 3:09 AM
- - delusionz   I think you should be using the adjustable fuel re...   Jul 23, 2013 - 7:05 AM
|- - Syaoran   OP: Stop. I gotta say this again but your e-manage...   Jul 23, 2013 - 1:54 PM
|- - digs   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Jul 23, 2013 - 2:54...   Jul 23, 2013 - 3:08 PM
- - delusionz   all you can really do is set the air/fuel ratios a...   Jul 23, 2013 - 7:09 AM
- - digs   Thanks again for all the replies guy, really do ap...   Jul 23, 2013 - 8:18 AM
- - Syaoran   I don't wanna sound condescending but it's...   Jul 23, 2013 - 5:05 PM
|- - digs   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Jul 23, 2013 - 6:05...   Jul 24, 2013 - 4:37 AM
- - delusionz   ^-- not to mention standalone can monitor the fact...   Jul 23, 2013 - 5:06 PM
- - Smaay   some piggy backs work just fine. Im not sure why e...   Jul 24, 2013 - 9:09 AM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (Smaay @ Jul 24, 2013 - 4:09 P...   Jul 24, 2013 - 11:57 AM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Jul 24, 2013 - 12:57...   Jul 24, 2013 - 3:53 PM
- - Hafkai   Well, my e-Manage was able to retard and advance t...   Jul 24, 2013 - 4:14 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Jul 24, 2013 - 5:14 ...   Jul 24, 2013 - 5:34 PM
- - digs   Hi, interesting debate Could you clarify this ? ...   Jul 25, 2013 - 12:52 AM
- - Syaoran   Intercepting the crank sensor is much more accurat...   Jul 25, 2013 - 1:37 AM
- - lagos   Piggy backs will never give you a good tune becaus...   Jul 25, 2013 - 9:28 PM
- - digs   Thanks guys anyone know if these would fit out o...   Aug 1, 2013 - 3:25 PM
- - Syaoran   They should with the correct seals.   Aug 2, 2013 - 6:31 PM
- - digs   Ok, so I am understanding the issues now (I can li...   Aug 13, 2013 - 2:53 PM
- - Syaoran   Bah, you already have a 3S-FE... all you really ne...   Aug 16, 2013 - 10:19 AM
|- - digs   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Aug 16, 2013 - 11:1...   Aug 16, 2013 - 11:19 AM
- - Syaoran   That's the meat and potatoes of the deal... yo...   Aug 16, 2013 - 3:50 PM


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