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post Dec 26, 2005 - 2:25 PM
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I have done my research and have come to the following conclusions regarding my suspension options.

From 6gc info page (http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=information&itu=4): “The GT hatchback does has the option of having the Sports Package on it, which utilizes special shock absorbers with two-stage valves, which give the car better dampening force for better handling stability. The Sports Package is not available on the ST model.”

I have a 97 GT with the sports option. (Toyota dealer told me so)

I have purchased the KYB GR2 from tirerack. $220
I have purchased the Tein S Tech springs from Ebay. $140

Now realizing that the KYB front inserts wont fit.

I have the following options (correct me if Im wrong):

1. Buy additional Brand new struts without sports package (UNSEALED) from partznet.com for 115.81 a piece(x2) = $232. Or used struts for $$??. Im guessing this will fit my car. Total parts cost $600. handling will be great, but ride will be bumpy.

2. Buy brand new struts with sports package (SEALED) for 115.81 x2 = $232, and lower the car with stock sports package struts. Return the KYB front inserts. Total parts cost = $490.
Have anyone lowered their car with the sports package struts??? Maybe I’ll be the first. Who knows what problems lay ahead, but will be better ride quality than KYB front inserts.

3. Faak KYB, get Tein SS coilovers and not have these problems. Total cost = $1250. Good handling and ride quality but double the price.

I am mainly interested in Have anyone lowered their car with the sports package struts??? and Is my options correct.
I also have 225/45/17 tires, I am assuming that the 1.5 drop in front wont scrap based on conversations with many 6gc member.


Thanks for the help.

This post has been edited by operative: Dec 26, 2005 - 4:13 PM
 
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post Sep 12, 2013 - 5:38 PM
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Daniel's car doesn't have sport suspension.
Stef looked up the vin at the dealership (as she did with our Beams and Manny's car). Manny's and our car had the sport supension listed as an option, Daniel's car didn't. Eod.

Here are some pics of the 96+ sport suspension sperical bushings in the trailing arms.
The arms on the top are the non-adjustable and the bottom are the (camber) adjustable.



2 things about the arms:
1. there are sperical bearings in them with a small rubber boot over them for protection.
2. the adjustable arm's heads are smaller than the non. Look at the width of the heads.

Here's another shot.

and the poly bushings


Look at the size of the bushing in the adjustable trailing arm (left) and the size of the bushing in the non (right), the holes in the arm heads are different sizes.

Now, for 94-95 non sport suspension (or STs too), all of the bushings are rubber. The heads of the trailing arms are the same size and the poly bushings fit in perfectly.
For 94-95 w/SS, the heads are the same size but you have sperical bearings, not rubber. They need to be pressed out and the poly bushings fit perfectly.

96+ w/SS, you have sperical bearings, and your adjustable trailing arms are different. They suck, the poly bushings won't fit.
96+ w/o SS (or STs) I assume you have the same size heads on the trailing arms and rubber bushings, poly bushing fit perfectly (Stef has a 97 ST and that was the case, no issues with poly bushings.

FYI here's pics of the poly bushings in the Beams (94 GT w/SS)









Here's a link to Manny's pics, 94 GT w/SS and now poly bushings
Notice all of his trailing arm heads are the same size)
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=90536

And Stef's link to her poly bushings
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...amp;hl=hurley97

And moar !
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...mp;#entry860146

If anyone needs more clarification, post up some questions.

This post has been edited by Batman722: Sep 12, 2013 - 5:57 PM


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Posts in this topic
- operative   GT w/ Sports option suspension   Dec 26, 2005 - 2:25 PM
- - LewFX   sports struts are just sealed struts, you cant cha...   Dec 26, 2005 - 3:29 PM
- - operative   "you can pick up some ST front strut housings...   Dec 26, 2005 - 4:55 PM
- - TTE   I had sport option, put TRD springs on and ride be...   Dec 26, 2005 - 5:33 PM
- - LewFX   what tte said, just go to a junk yard and find non...   Dec 26, 2005 - 8:59 PM
- - macavely   if you need the fronts PM ...   Dec 27, 2005 - 3:00 AM
- - operative   So the most popular option is used normal sturts w...   Dec 27, 2005 - 9:48 PM
- - LewFX   seems like it, if you must go gr2s   Dec 27, 2005 - 9:49 PM
- - elvasoshexai   ok. i was just talking to kyb. if this performan...   Dec 28, 2005 - 1:22 PM
- - operative   elvasoshexai, good find. post updates on how the ...   Jan 2, 2006 - 7:43 PM
- - lagos   i had the same problem with mine. ended up getting...   Jan 2, 2006 - 8:10 PM
- - LewFX   monroes are way to soft and they are sealed as wel...   Jan 3, 2006 - 12:11 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   QUOTE....and go out and buy the tein system..... ...   Jan 3, 2006 - 1:37 AM
- - sugarfree   i had my eibachs on the sport package struts. They...   Jan 5, 2006 - 6:40 PM
|- - Negative   QUOTE(sugarfree @ Jan 5, 2006 - 11:4...   Jan 17, 2006 - 10:03 AM
- - operative   My suspension setup is finally installed. Front: ...   Jan 14, 2006 - 12:13 AM
- - elvasoshexai   for those that said kyb didn't make front stru...   Jan 24, 2006 - 8:41 PM
- - celicarus   hey elvasoshexai -- that's probably new - bec...   Jan 24, 2006 - 9:23 PM
- - Shigexile   i got kyb with sportlines and no problem. BUT, i w...   Jan 26, 2006 - 12:50 AM
- - SiN_CeLi   Kind of a noobish question I dont know a whole lot...   Feb 7, 2006 - 1:57 PM
|- - Willy2o9   QUOTE(SiN_CeLi @ Feb 7, 2006 - 1:57 ...   Feb 7, 2006 - 2:43 PM
- - Manta5x   this thread was very helpful to me. thanks elvasos...   Feb 28, 2006 - 8:52 PM
- - Manta5x   Ups just dropped off my KYB Gr2 full front struts ...   Mar 8, 2006 - 11:36 AM
- - WALKER   That was an excellent post. Thank you very much f...   Apr 4, 2006 - 3:24 PM
- - KAOS   another Newb question about the Tein Coilover pack...   Apr 21, 2006 - 8:40 AM
|- - celicarus   QUOTE(KAOS @ Apr 21, 2006 - 8:40 AM)...   Apr 23, 2006 - 5:17 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ok so since dustin and batmann brought it up in th...   Sep 3, 2013 - 5:11 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   AT200 rear end http://toyotamarket.ru/us/252470/0...   Sep 4, 2013 - 10:53 PM
- - richee3   My '98 GT does not have the Sport suspension.   Sep 5, 2013 - 4:59 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   wheres your proof source ? if you just talking abo...   Sep 5, 2013 - 9:24 PM
- - richee3   Stef ran my VIN today to check.   Sep 5, 2013 - 10:00 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ok its not your car or that i didn't believe y...   Sep 5, 2013 - 10:38 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   bump   Sep 12, 2013 - 4:50 PM
- - Batman722   Daniel's car doesn't have sport suspension...   Sep 12, 2013 - 5:38 PM
- - njccmd2002   hmm reminds me of   Sep 12, 2013 - 7:11 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   OK Great info lets get this stickied!! go...   Sep 12, 2013 - 11:13 PM
- - Rusty   not sure if its the angle, but this looks smaller ...   Sep 13, 2013 - 6:00 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (Rusty @ Sep 13, 2013 - 7:00 P...   Sep 13, 2013 - 8:56 PM
- - njccmd2002   just to confirm these are not sports package right...   Jan 29, 2014 - 1:25 PM
- - Batman722   Looks like sport to me and they'll have to be ...   Jan 29, 2014 - 4:00 PM
- - njccmd2002   Yeah, metal between. But the other one the adjust...   Jan 29, 2014 - 5:55 PM
- - Batman722   So all the heads look the same, right ? (same size...   Jan 29, 2014 - 8:45 PM
- - njccmd2002   yeah, funny thing, i dont want to go through this ...   Jan 29, 2014 - 9:09 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   So I checked my rear trailing arm that adjusts cam...   Oct 20, 2014 - 2:53 PM
- - mi645   any benefits?   Oct 24, 2014 - 7:43 PM


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