Reducing Understeer |
Reducing Understeer |
Oct 22, 2013 - 8:35 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '06 From Calgary, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
I'm looking for some advice. The engine is almost back in the car, and I then need to finish the chassis upgrades.
I have a ST front sway bar to install and my friend seems to think that if I remove the sway bar altogether and NOT install the ST bar, that will significantly remove any understeer. <- I gave him one of these. Doesn't make much sense to me to completely remove it; the new REAR sway bar is installed and set to stiff. But I can't see this car having so much HP that understeer would be affected at all... Squash this inner turmoil for me. ... and GO! -------------------- |
Oct 22, 2013 - 6:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
Our cars hardly understeer at all... even when mine was stock it would barely understeer. You also need to know how to corner properly; like when to brake, when to coast, when to get on the gas, and also you need to have a nice line through a corner. Obviously, if you cut the wheel sharp and stomp on the gas, you'll get a bunch of understeer lmao
With my setup; front 3pt strut bar rear 2pt strut bar interior harness bar coilovers all around about -1.7 to -1.9 camber in the front about -3 to -3.5 of camber in the rear (didn't plan for that to happen, just did when I installed my coilovers) bridgestone potenza re-760 sport tires I don't get any understeer at all. No oversteer either, but I can make the rear end kick a little bit lol And to answer your question, if you install the front ST sway bar, it will help with the understeer. But like you said, NOTRACECAR, so you shouldn't even be worried haha |
Oct 23, 2013 - 6:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Lake Orion, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Also, as a general rule; passenger cars are designed to understeer. It's a safer, "loss of car control" scenario than say... some snappy oversteer.
about -3 to -3.5 of camber in the rear (didn't plan for that to happen, just did when I installed my coilovers) Holy crazy tire wear, Batman! -------------------- -Mike
mjcoury@gmail.com Team Reynolds Style Celica Blog Celica Wiki It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. |
Oct 23, 2013 - 9:57 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
Also, as a general rule; passenger cars are designed to understeer. It's a safer, "loss of car control" scenario than say... some snappy oversteer. about -3 to -3.5 of camber in the rear (didn't plan for that to happen, just did when I installed my coilovers) Holy crazy tire wear, Batman! Well I've only had them on for the spring-fall so there really isn't too much odd wear. It really helps with cornering though because when you turn to either side the tire will press down more evenly on pavement and will become closer to 0 degrees of camber, which makes a better contact to the ground. Where as if you're around 0 to -1 degree of camber, depending on the corner, the wheel might start to positive camber, which could be bad because you run the possibility of losing contact on the inside of the tire. I've only read up on the whole camber thing a little bit so that's what I took from it so far, hoping to read up more in the near future, but if I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me on it. |
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