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post Nov 29, 2013 - 2:49 PM
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I've been looking around online for a redtop beams and wanted to get you guy's opinion on what I've found.

$1499.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Toyota-3SGE-Be...6aa&vxp=mtr

$1384
http://www.jdmenginescorp.com/engine_detai...-trans-wire-ecu

$1995
http://www.jdmenginezone.com/engine-detail...top--98_99.html


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post Dec 5, 2013 - 3:04 PM
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Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg.


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post Dec 5, 2013 - 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (Poonicus @ Dec 5, 2013 - 4:04 PM) *
Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg.


How much horsepower do you want? I've never driven a beams and it's been awhile since being in a 3sgte car, but this is coming from general experience.

Going from a pedestrian four pot like a 5sfe to a hi-performance type like the beams is a significant and worthwhile hike in power. The difference is even greater in real world performance. But adding a complete turbo system to that high-performance engine design takes it into another league of power and performance. A gte is going to be stock 240hp. And you're going to ask it to ingest a few more psi than factory(oh yeah you are) so it's realistically a 260-300hp motor. That's to say nothing of the broad and abundant torque and it's subtle and unsubtle advantages.

A 200hp beams is a good choice. A 280hp gte is a good one too. But they're way different. Do you have a power or performance goal?
post Dec 6, 2013 - 1:13 AM
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QUOTE (H8TRAIN @ Dec 5, 2013 - 7:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Poonicus @ Dec 5, 2013 - 4:04 PM) *
Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg.


How much horsepower do you want? I've never driven a beams and it's been awhile since being in a 3sgte car, but this is coming from general experience.

Going from a pedestrian four pot like a 5sfe to a hi-performance type like the beams is a significant and worthwhile hike in power. The difference is even greater in real world performance. But adding a complete turbo system to that high-performance engine design takes it into another league of power and performance. A gte is going to be stock 240hp. And you're going to ask it to ingest a few more psi than factory(oh yeah you are) so it's realistically a 260-300hp motor. That's to say nothing of the broad and abundant torque and it's subtle and unsubtle advantages.

A 200hp beams is a good choice. A 280hp gte is a good one too. But they're way different. Do you have a power or performance goal?


there is nothing high performance about a BEAMS

and a BEAMS might make 200 HP to the crank but you will be lucky to get 170 to the wheels


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- Poonicus   Red Top Beams   Nov 29, 2013 - 2:49 PM
- - Smaay   for those prices, have you considered a V6?   Nov 29, 2013 - 3:11 PM
- - richee3   Out of the three, I recommend the last since it ha...   Nov 29, 2013 - 3:30 PM
- - Poonicus   QUOTE (Smaay @ Nov 29, 2013 - 2:11 P...   Nov 29, 2013 - 6:12 PM
- - Box   http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-98-Toyota-Celi...b9b...   Nov 29, 2013 - 6:35 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 29, 2013 - 6:35 PM)...   Nov 30, 2013 - 12:05 AM
|- - Box   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 29, 2013 - 11...   Nov 30, 2013 - 1:54 AM
|- - H8TRAIN   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 30, 2013 - 1...   Dec 2, 2013 - 11:28 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (H8TRAIN @ Dec 2, 2013 - 10:28...   Dec 2, 2013 - 11:53 PM
|- - H8TRAIN   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 3, 2013 - 12...   Dec 3, 2013 - 7:05 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (H8TRAIN @ Dec 3, 2013 - 6:05 ...   Dec 3, 2013 - 11:25 PM
- - Box   Man, the more I think about it what I posted is ve...   Nov 29, 2013 - 7:47 PM
- - njccmd2002   here is a pic of healthy VVTI sensor. engine ...   Dec 3, 2013 - 10:48 PM
- - Box   Out of the 2ZZ-GE perhaps?   Dec 4, 2013 - 12:21 AM
- - richee3   It wasn't the 2ZZ or the 1ZZ, it was some oddb...   Dec 4, 2013 - 12:43 AM
- - H8TRAIN   Right on, guys. Thanks for the info!   Dec 4, 2013 - 1:10 AM
- - Smaay   the OCV will only work if the hole it mounts in is...   Dec 4, 2013 - 1:30 AM
- - richee3   I have no idea how many teeth are on the crank pos...   Dec 4, 2013 - 3:07 AM
- - Poonicus   Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more que...   Dec 5, 2013 - 3:04 PM
|- - H8TRAIN   QUOTE (Poonicus @ Dec 5, 2013 - 4:04...   Dec 5, 2013 - 10:28 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (H8TRAIN @ Dec 5, 2013 - 7:28 ...   Dec 6, 2013 - 1:13 AM
|- - H8TRAIN   QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 6, 2013 - 2:13 AM...   Dec 6, 2013 - 8:32 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (H8TRAIN @ Dec 6, 2013 - 5:32 ...   Dec 6, 2013 - 8:39 PM
|- - H8TRAIN   QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 6, 2013 - 9:39 PM...   Dec 7, 2013 - 7:03 PM
- - Box   The 5S isn't the most fuel efficient motor aro...   Dec 5, 2013 - 3:28 PM
|- - Poonicus   QUOTE (Box @ Dec 5, 2013 - 2:28 PM) ...   Dec 5, 2013 - 4:43 PM
- - Box   20 city with the MR2 Turbo. Though if that is a c...   Dec 5, 2013 - 5:08 PM
- - Smaay   QUOTE (Poonicus @ Dec 5, 2013 - 1:43...   Dec 5, 2013 - 6:12 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 6, 2013 - 8:39 PM...   Dec 7, 2013 - 2:37 PM
- - njccmd2002   Lolz. 5 internet points   Dec 7, 2013 - 8:17 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   h8 train stop while your ahead.   Dec 8, 2013 - 3:03 AM
|- - H8TRAIN   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Dec 8, 2013 - 4...   Dec 8, 2013 - 11:36 AM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Dec 8, 2013 - 2...   Dec 8, 2013 - 1:09 PM
- - njccmd2002   we can start talking about why the sky is blue, an...   Dec 8, 2013 - 1:12 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 8, 2013 - 10...   Dec 9, 2013 - 1:33 AM
- - njccmd2002   Lfa is Lexus not an engine I see in any toyota. T...   Dec 9, 2013 - 9:08 AM
- - Smaay   I never said i dislike the BEAMS, I said its not w...   Dec 9, 2013 - 9:17 AM
- - JasonTX   Just FYI poonicus. i ordered a motor for my mr2 ma...   Dec 9, 2013 - 9:59 AM


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