Red Top Beams, Looking to buy, need advice. Options

[Poonicus]

I've been looking around online for a redtop beams and wanted to get you guy's opinion on what I've found.

$1499.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Toyota-3SGE-Be...6aa&vxp=mtr

$1384
http://www.jdmenginescorp.com/engine_detai...-trans-wire-ecu

$1995
http://www.jdmenginezone.com/engine-detail...top--98_99.html

[Poonicus]

Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg.

[H8TRAIN]

Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg.

How much horsepower do you want? I've never driven a beams and it's been awhile since being in a 3sgte car, but this is coming from general experience.

Going from a pedestrian four pot like a 5sfe to a hi-performance type like the beams is a significant and worthwhile hike in power. The difference is even greater in real world performance. But adding a complete turbo system to that high-performance engine design takes it into another league of power and performance. A gte is going to be stock 240hp. And you're going to ask it to ingest a few more psi than factory(oh yeah you are) so it's realistically a 260-300hp motor. That's to say nothing of the broad and abundant torque and it's subtle and unsubtle advantages.

A 200hp beams is a good choice. A 280hp gte is a good one too. But they're way different. Do you have a power or performance goal?

[Smaay]

Good thread glad I posted it haha and one more question in terms of driveablity and comfort, ect. would it be better to do 3gste or red top beams? I'm looking into swaping a motor into my car that gives it more power than the 5sfe but higher than like 16mpg.

How much horsepower do you want? I've never driven a beams and it's been awhile since being in a 3sgte car, but this is coming from general experience.

Going from a pedestrian four pot like a 5sfe to a hi-performance type like the beams is a significant and worthwhile hike in power. The difference is even greater in real world performance. But adding a complete turbo system to that high-performance engine design takes it into another league of power and performance. A gte is going to be stock 240hp. And you're going to ask it to ingest a few more psi than factory(oh yeah you are) so it's realistically a 260-300hp motor. That's to say nothing of the broad and abundant torque and it's subtle and unsubtle advantages.

A 200hp beams is a good choice. A 280hp gte is a good one too. But they're way different. Do you have a power or performance goal?

there is nothing high performance about a BEAMS

and a BEAMS might make 200 HP to the crank but you will be lucky to get 170 to the wheels

[H8TRAIN]

there is nothing high performance about a BEAMS

How do you feel about bumping the beams vs v6 thread so we can argue about this? Fun? Yeah?

[Smaay]

there is nothing high performance about a BEAMS

How do you feel about bumping the beams vs v6 thread so we can argue about this? Fun? Yeah?

no leave that thread dead where it belongs. The BEAMS has High Performance qualities like VVT but its far from a high performance title.

[H8TRAIN]

no leave that thread dead where it belongs. The BEAMS has High Performance qualities like VVT but its far from a high performance title.

The 3sge is clearly a hi-performance version of the 3sfe/5sfe. That's it's reason for existence; To be the hi performance 2000 class flagship and race winner. It not only makes more power at higher engine speeds than the regular fe versions, but can sustain maximum output relentlessly while maintaining consistent cooling and oiling. From an engineering perspective, it is hi-performance.

The caveat here is that this is only my concept of what hi-performance means. The fact that it appears to overlap with the ideas of toyota and it's various motorsports teams is of little consequence if you personally have a different idea of what makes a hi performance engine.