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> "whatever" swaped st205, which motor would worthy replace a 3sgte?
post Jun 16, 2014 - 4:55 PM
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OK! I know it's not a forum friendly discussion but it's really common on other cars (rwd mostly)
you see sr rb 2jz and ls , bmw and mercedes v8 and v10s powered cars a lot these days.
Of course you can make that power of a 3s but it's not the best motor around.
Which swap would you do if you wanted big hp numbers and reliability for an AWD st205?
I've seen some v6 but they are fwd , and also a 4g (evo) swapped here in Greece.

I would like to hear some opinions and not the typical "stick with your 3s".
 
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post Jun 20, 2014 - 8:16 PM
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Since there are more than one cars with that kind of swaps I dont't find it useless.
It's a conversation that may help some people built a better car. like kurts v6 celica and other 5s celicas.
I have seen a local old lexus running a 1uz v8 with 0.4 of boost with stock internals.
The owner used it as a drift car and won several races on the local championship against fully built monsters and the 1uz was completely stock. Just a turbo kit attached on it.
He said that the 1uz has semiforged internals that can handle boost till 1bar!!! I'm not sure about that but the car was on track for several years till the regulations changed and he built another car accordingly to new regulations.
He was abusing and racing that engine like there's no tomorow. the engine had put 420whp/5800, 650nm/3500. (0.42 bar)

Back at the point.
It would be interesting to put a turbo v8 on the celica.
The cost would be
-a complete 1-uz swap for 1500 to 2000 euro.
-custom mounts for the engine and transmission or an adaptor for the E154 around 1000 e
-a custom turbo kit around 2000 maybe 3000 e
-an aftermarket ecu (emanage ultimate maybe) for 500 e
-some other stuff like a boost controller, some gauges and couple other that I may forget 500-1000 e
-the work that needs to be done from a mechanic - electrician - tuner 1000 or maybe 2000 e
so approximately 7 - 10.000 euros

you can achieve that hp number with the 3s. I know. but the v8 would be more fun to drive and has more potential.
That's a completely stock motor with just 0.4 of boost. civilised - daily - reliable.
If you add some forged internals and bigger turbo set up ......

Posts in this topic
- underground_design   "whatever" swaped st205   Jun 16, 2014 - 4:55 PM
- - Smaay   RE: "whatever" swaped st205   Jun 16, 2014 - 5:35 PM
- - cardshark525   Here... Buy this : http://forums.modified.com/70/1...   Jun 16, 2014 - 6:20 PM
- - underground_design   QUOTE (Smaay @ Jun 16, 2014 - 5:35 P...   Jun 17, 2014 - 6:42 AM
- - Malek   Maybe you've seen the K20 swapped MR2? Yes it...   Jun 17, 2014 - 2:25 PM
- - njccmd2002   plain and simple, you can put any engine you want....   Jun 17, 2014 - 6:27 PM
- - richee3   Not the most hp out there, but a 1UZ is a good opt...   Jun 17, 2014 - 6:41 PM
- - njccmd2002   yup forgot that, but space will be tight... but y...   Jun 17, 2014 - 6:49 PM
- - Box   Well, there's the MZ family of V6 engines. Eh...   Jun 17, 2014 - 7:40 PM
- - kurt95gt   1mz block 3mz heads Forged internals Add boost t...   Jun 17, 2014 - 7:53 PM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Jun 17, 2014 - 5:5...   Jun 18, 2014 - 8:02 AM
|- - kurt95gt   QUOTE (Smaay @ Jun 18, 2014 - 9:02 A...   Jun 22, 2014 - 1:20 AM
- - Box   OMGZ KURT IS ALIVE.   Jun 18, 2014 - 2:36 AM
- - Box   I totally would be up for a twin turbo 3MZ/1MZ hyb...   Jun 18, 2014 - 2:21 PM
- - underground_design   that would be insane! problem is that these ...   Jun 18, 2014 - 5:00 PM
- - Box   Can take the 3S-GTE into the 600's last I knew...   Jun 18, 2014 - 7:03 PM
- - Special_Edy   2GR-FE, 3.5L V6, over 270 hp stock. If that wasnt ...   Jun 19, 2014 - 7:15 AM
- - underground_design   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jun 19, 2014 - 7...   Jun 19, 2014 - 2:00 PM
- - Special_Edy   I dont think they have ever been mated, but the be...   Jun 19, 2014 - 3:09 PM
- - SwissFerdi   For something different and fun...335i twin turbo ...   Jun 19, 2014 - 3:51 PM
- - Neon90424   custom build an engine out of 2 CBR1000 engines an...   Jun 20, 2014 - 8:24 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   this thread is useless and will be closed any seco...   Jun 20, 2014 - 1:52 PM
- - Box   It's not entirely useless, and there's no ...   Jun 20, 2014 - 2:50 PM
- - underground_design   Since there are more than one cars with that kind ...   Jun 20, 2014 - 8:16 PM
- - Box   The problem is making certain engines fit though.   Jun 20, 2014 - 8:42 PM
- - underground_design   There is it. A ta22 with a turbo v8 1uz and awd ...   Jun 21, 2014 - 5:27 PM
- - Special_Edy   1uz wont fit with any traverse awd layout on the 6...   Jun 21, 2014 - 7:16 PM
- - underground_design   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Jun 21, 2014 - 7...   Jun 22, 2014 - 5:34 PM
- - underground_design   and just show some understanding for my bad Englis...   Jun 22, 2014 - 5:39 PM
- - kurt95gt   A company called DTM(I think) built a Camry runnin...   Jun 23, 2014 - 12:00 AM
- - Special_Edy   You could probably turbocharge or supercharge a 1m...   Jun 23, 2014 - 10:40 AM
- - underground_design   QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Jun 23, 2014 - 12...   Jun 24, 2014 - 7:16 PM
- - Special_Edy   Camry3MZ1000: http://youtu.be/XNWbZ53_CZo GT40R T...   Jun 24, 2014 - 10:34 PM


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