"whatever" swaped st205, which motor would worthy replace a 3sgte? Options

[underground_desi...]

OK! I know it's not a forum friendly discussion but it's really common on other cars (rwd mostly)
you see sr rb 2jz and ls , bmw and mercedes v8 and v10s powered cars a lot these days.
Of course you can make that power of a 3s but it's not the best motor around.
Which swap would you do if you wanted big hp numbers and reliability for an AWD st205?
I've seen some v6 but they are fwd , and also a 4g (evo) swapped here in Greece.

I would like to hear some opinions and not the typical "stick with your 3s".

[underground_desi...]

A company called DTM(I think) built a Camry running a 3mz/1mz combo. Built an boosted it made 1057 HP /629 to
Now given that's not your normal build but it does show what can be done. Pretty sure that's on a stock block with upgraded internals

Smash did a hybrid. He can tell you more about it than I could

I've seen somewhere that 1057hp camry. I didn't knew it was a V6 tho.
Of course it's not a normal built and personally I am not going after something like this , but that's the proof that a bigger motor is USUALLY capable of more power and reliability.
I am going to search more info about it.
Thank you.

You could probably turbocharge or supercharge a 1mz for the price of a 2gr.

A 1mz swap is about half or less the cost of a 2gr.
Maybe $1000-$2500 for a 1mz depending on how much you do yourself and twice that for a 2gr just based upon the cost of a used motor. I could go get a running 1mz for $300 but youre going to need a whole front clip for the 2gr unless you go with a standalone ecu.

Apparently some people have run low amounts of boost on stock 1mz internals and the TRD supercharger will run on a fully stock 1mz.
But the benefits of the 1mz and 2gr are not the horsepower, its the fact that from roughly 1000rpm to redline they are in the powerband as far as torque is concerned. A 1mz is pretty well matched to a 3sgte because of its broader torque curve vs higher rpm hp. The 2grfe is roughly making more torque at 1500rpm than the 3sgte's max figure

That's what I wanted to say Special Edy. Thanks!
It's not about the peak power the 3s may achieve, but the big diference at all rpms and the drivability of a light boossted v6 v8 . Plus the fantastic sound.
Another reason is that using a bigger displacement engine with 300hp from the factory with a small amount of boost to reach 400-500hp you may mot need excessive engine modifications that costs alot and you don't have to push the engine to it's limits.
The stock boosted v8 1uz I was talking about before was working at the redline all the time and never said a single no.
It had insane amounts of torque even at 1000+ rpm.
The owner of this car after some years of hard use did a experiment and he abolished the FMIC and its piping. just a straight pipe diect into the plenum!!!
He eliminated all the lag of the turbo eventually! Of course that caused the air to get really hot after a couple of minutes (with the consequences) but it didn't matter since it was a drift car and its use didn't exceeded that time.
and all these from a completely stock engine-ecu-fuel system-etc that was not supposed to be used like this.

About the 1-2gr now.
I wasn't able to find a single conversion here.
some 1mz could be found but that's not easy tho, nor that cheap
Do you have any links of these boosted 1mzs. I would like to see some.