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post Mar 23, 2010 - 10:22 PM
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i've always been an admirer of this gen celica and toyotas in general. i have a 91 turbo mr2 and after selling my 93 alltrac i thought another daily would be nice. i dont really know much about the 5s motor. but after some research and about a half year of looking for a 6gc i finally found one.so last friday and made the couple hundred mile trip from houston to austin and back to bring it home. its a black 94 GT hatchback. the car had been in storage for 2 years but after a battery change and a fresh tank of gas it started right up and made it all the way home without a hickup. My primary purpose for the celica is to have a comfortable, sporty looking and reliable car i enjoy driving. thus far i'm not dissapointd its smoother and quieter than any of my previous vehicles, plus more fuel efficent and after the tune up i can determine nothing wrong with the motor.


i've talkd to many on the forums while searching for my car and options for it, and am glad to have found a place where so many enthusiasts are willing to offer their advice and share their knowledge.like many others here i wanted to start cataloging my progress. both to se how far my car has come and to try and offer something back to the community

so thanks to everyone who has helped me out. feel free to comment or offer suggestions and pics and writeups of my progress will be coming soon

peace

-jec





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QUOTE (Malhar95 @ Aug 12, 2014 - 12:53 PM) *
Congrats man! That's motiving me, can I come see if when u work on it next?


sure man. i'm not there a scheduled time just when i can break away from work on mondays till around 5 since its 100 mile trip back to the house. i'll text ya and let ya know when i'll be there next


QUOTE (enderswift @ Aug 12, 2014 - 3:02 PM) *
Oh my god you've been holding out on us! Such a clean build!

I really like how you handled the water injection. Aren't you concerned the nozzles are too close to the chambers? And how are you controlling the flowrate?


thanks, Not holding out though just not at home much with my summer work schedule. i took a lot more step by step pics but posted these mostly as a review of what i've done since april. Eventually i'll go back and do how to's and part numbers for individual parts of the build.

i actually wanted to move them closer to the base of the manifold and get it right at the head. But the way the runners are cast, some of the other stuff gets in the way. Ive read different theories about this and spent some time talking to Texas_ace, greg at aquamist, the other engineers at work and the aircraft mechanics over there at the hangar who do this with their ww2 era airplanes(btw check out the lone star flight museum for some cool examples of ww1 to modern aircraft and the texan crews that few them.)

It seems that nozzle placement is largely gonna be dependant on your goals. to cool the intake charge 1 nozzle after the IC and before the TB makes a lot of sense.(and saves a bunch of money) but equal distribution is a bit harder to achieve with that approach. Alternatively going direct port solves the unequal distribution problem but at much greater cost and with only marginal gains and a good chance that the water wont have enough time to absorb sufficient kiloJoules of heat to convert into steam before the combustion chamber. But because the intake track is very short with the TMIC and this is primarly a knock suppression system i went direct injection with small nozzels so that in a tuning situation i dont have to worry about insufficent supression in 1 cylinder and oversaturation in another.

as far as flow rate i was at first thinking progressive controll but read some intresting stuff about pump stall at lower current with progressive controllers on shurflo pumps(which i have) so i'm connecting the selenoid and pump to a simple switch and going single stage. I'll post the link if i can find it

some interesting reading below

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=437574
http://cultofmini.com/technical-papers/int...ection-systems/
http://www.usrallyteam.com/index.php?main_...mp;cPath=68_259


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- JasonTX   JasonTX   Mar 23, 2010 - 10:22 PM
- - cheela   aww.. i wish i had your two previous cars. why...   Mar 23, 2010 - 10:26 PM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (cheela @ Mar 23, 2010 - 11:26...   Mar 23, 2010 - 10:36 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   Good logic .Do u have any plans for the car?ie:rim...   Mar 23, 2010 - 10:39 PM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Mar 23, 2010 - 11...   Mar 24, 2010 - 9:04 AM
- - 96stgreendemon   7th gen shorty shifter, do it   Mar 24, 2010 - 11:15 AM
- - spolski07   where abouts in austin you located? (austin is jus...   Mar 24, 2010 - 11:51 AM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (spolski07 @ Mar 24, 2010 - 11...   Mar 24, 2010 - 12:05 PM
|- - spolski07   QUOTE (JasonTX @ Mar 24, 2010 - 12:0...   Mar 24, 2010 - 1:56 PM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (spolski07 @ Mar 24, 2010 - 2...   Mar 25, 2010 - 9:28 AM
- - JasonTX   My latest addition.sorry about the night pics will...   Apr 6, 2010 - 9:38 PM
|- - Success21   QUOTE (JasonTX @ Apr 6, 2010 - 9:38 ...   Apr 6, 2010 - 11:08 PM
- - JasonTX   got my gt4 front in and put on. next i wanna start...   Sep 18, 2010 - 10:12 PM
- - stephen_lee   we have a tx meet going on in oct. you should join...   Sep 19, 2010 - 6:26 PM
- - Spider77   Was gunna whore that, but got beat to it. Go to t...   Sep 19, 2010 - 6:44 PM
- - JasonTX   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Sep 19, 2010 - 6...   Sep 19, 2010 - 7:50 PM
- - Spider77   Should do it!   Sep 19, 2010 - 8:01 PM
- - JasonTX   been a long time since i've posted in this thr...   Dec 2, 2011 - 1:57 AM
- - cheela   same color or different?   Dec 2, 2011 - 2:24 AM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (cheela @ Dec 2, 2011 - 3:24 A...   Dec 2, 2011 - 2:36 AM
- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (JasonTX @ Mar 23, 2010 - 10:2...   Dec 2, 2011 - 10:12 AM
- - JasonTX   just a cell phone pic but paint came out good. st...   Dec 5, 2011 - 10:22 PM
- - Malhar95   how much did the paint cost u and where'd u ge...   Dec 6, 2011 - 1:00 AM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (Malhar95 @ Dec 6, 2011 - 1:00...   Dec 6, 2011 - 2:07 AM
|- - Malhar95   QUOTE (JasonTX @ Dec 6, 2011 - 2:07 ...   Dec 6, 2011 - 4:37 AM
- - JasonTX   a friend of mine has his own shop and did it for m...   Dec 6, 2011 - 5:18 PM
- - Neon90424   for some reason that rear spoiler seems to be too ...   Dec 6, 2011 - 5:38 PM
- - matts94celica   Brenham huh? I live like 5 mind away from somervil...   Dec 6, 2011 - 11:39 PM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (matts94celica @ Dec 7, 2011 - 12...   Dec 7, 2011 - 2:21 AM
- - matts94celica   Sounds good just shoot me a pm when your back and ...   Dec 7, 2011 - 10:18 AM
- - JasonTX   just got in my 7th gen short shifter in the mail t...   Jan 17, 2012 - 2:47 PM
- - celiracer   Welcome! cars coming along good and quick man....   Jan 17, 2012 - 5:49 PM
- - 02bluerolla   oh snap i didnt know there was a another celica wi...   Jan 17, 2012 - 9:10 PM
- - JasonTX   yeah , i've actually seen a lot of your posts ...   Jan 17, 2012 - 9:55 PM
- - Smaay   you had a 93 All-Trac and got rid of it? where you...   Jan 18, 2012 - 4:03 PM
- - JasonTX   lol, i got an offer for it and i thought it was wo...   Jan 18, 2012 - 10:41 PM
- - JasonTX   shifter swapped in , for 12 bucks on ebay this if ...   Jan 21, 2012 - 4:01 PM
- - JasonTX   pic of the new shifter and another ebay pick...   Feb 1, 2012 - 9:40 PM
- - TRD_Ian   can u post an add to that mirror im interested in ...   Feb 2, 2012 - 10:25 PM
- - JasonTX   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gentex-261-Auto-di...6#ht_...   Feb 3, 2012 - 12:15 AM
- - JasonTX   just recieved another package today   Feb 6, 2012 - 9:42 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Pretty.   Feb 7, 2012 - 7:32 PM
- - opie_7afe   any updates? you get that opti-coat put on? paint ...   Feb 29, 2012 - 11:19 PM
- - JasonTX   well its been a while since i've really been a...   Nov 20, 2013 - 12:36 AM
- - 02bluerolla   Another 3s celica in TX! What transmission ar...   Nov 21, 2013 - 1:28 PM
- - JasonTX   got a couple of options with the celica/mr2 parts ...   Nov 21, 2013 - 5:10 PM
- - JasonTX   chugged away at it a little more this evening. got...   Nov 22, 2013 - 6:09 PM
- - bsamps4   All depends on what your plans are. If you're ...   Nov 23, 2013 - 8:22 AM
- - JasonTX   I've been snooping the forums and online for p...   Nov 24, 2013 - 9:32 AM
- - JasonTX   took em to the machine shop to get hot tanked, the...   Dec 12, 2013 - 1:50 PM
- - bsamps4   Looks really nice man! Keep up the good progre...   Dec 13, 2013 - 7:30 AM
- - JasonTX   got to put in a couple hours tonight before i had ...   Dec 17, 2013 - 10:44 PM
- - JasonTX   well back in town for jury duty tomarrow morning. ...   Jan 5, 2014 - 8:55 PM
- - JasonTX   had to go back up to the shop to get a bolt to mat...   Jan 5, 2014 - 11:44 PM
- - MR2fanatic   Great work and nice choice of cars!   Jan 6, 2014 - 11:26 PM
- - JasonTX   QUOTE (MR2fanatic @ Jan 6, 2014 - 11...   Jan 8, 2014 - 1:11 PM
- - JasonTX   well it took a lot of work by hand to get to this ...   Jan 8, 2014 - 9:30 PM
- - JasonTX   had a little time this evening so plugged away at ...   Jan 15, 2014 - 8:35 PM
- - JasonTX   got the W2A heat exchanger and pump today from bsa...   Jan 16, 2014 - 9:38 PM
|- - bsamps4   QUOTE (JasonTX @ Jan 16, 2014 - 10:3...   Jan 18, 2014 - 10:23 AM
|- - bsamps4   QUOTE (JasonTX @ Jan 16, 2014 - 10:3...   Jan 18, 2014 - 10:23 AM
- - JasonTX   two very big pieces to my puzzle finally arrived t...   Jan 17, 2014 - 7:53 PM
- - JasonTX   I've been tring to take a lot of pictures to p...   Jan 21, 2014 - 12:38 AM
- - JasonTX   more amazon parts and more fitting and putting it ...   Jan 25, 2014 - 9:48 PM
- - JasonTX   same old story just putting in a few minutes whene...   Feb 2, 2014 - 9:20 PM
- - JasonTX   with all the delays with work and life i'm not...   Mar 23, 2014 - 10:52 PM
- - japukspares   I love the work that you are doing on the engine. ...   Mar 24, 2014 - 7:49 AM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (japukspares @ Mar 24, 2014 - 8...   Mar 24, 2014 - 3:22 PM
- - JasonTX   a couple more things rod and main bearings came i...   Mar 31, 2014 - 8:20 AM
- - JasonTX   been out for work most of the summer but a friend ...   Aug 12, 2014 - 8:45 AM
- - JasonTX   water injection nozzels distribution block ho...   Aug 12, 2014 - 8:55 AM
- - JasonTX   went with the drift motion(left) oil feed and drai...   Aug 12, 2014 - 9:50 AM
- - JasonTX   reinstalled it several times but not very happy wi...   Aug 12, 2014 - 10:39 AM
- - JasonTX   Harness getting a little repair and rewiring al...   Aug 12, 2014 - 11:14 AM
- - JasonTX   finally ready to get the old motor out and get the...   Aug 12, 2014 - 11:47 AM
- - Malhar95   Congrats man! That's motiving me, can I co...   Aug 12, 2014 - 11:53 AM
- - enderswift   Oh my god you've been holding out on us! S...   Aug 12, 2014 - 2:02 PM
- - JasonTX   QUOTE (Malhar95 @ Aug 12, 2014 - 12...   Aug 12, 2014 - 6:11 PM
- - Special_Edy   Would you be interested in selling the 5s? I spun ...   Aug 13, 2014 - 3:02 PM
- - JasonTX   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Aug 13, 2014 - 3...   Aug 13, 2014 - 3:07 PM
- - richee3   Everything on the new motor looks great! Excel...   Aug 13, 2014 - 3:31 PM
- - JasonTX   thanks bud, looking forward to getting it back on ...   Aug 16, 2014 - 9:32 AM
- - JasonTX   No chance to get down to houston today but i did g...   Aug 18, 2014 - 5:57 PM
- - Batman722   If you have questions, post em up.   Aug 18, 2014 - 6:23 PM
- - JasonTX   wow thanks bud. that's just what i needed, tha...   Aug 18, 2014 - 7:23 PM
- - Batman722   PM me your email address, I'll send you the ED...   Aug 18, 2014 - 8:47 PM
- - JasonTX   quick question. anyone have the size on the belt...   Aug 19, 2014 - 2:21 AM
- - JasonTX   couple of additional pics. not new stuff but final...   Aug 20, 2014 - 2:11 AM
- - JasonTX   making a bracket to hold the water injection distr...   Aug 20, 2014 - 4:15 PM
- - enderswift   You will enjoy this. Make sure you ground it at th...   Aug 20, 2014 - 4:43 PM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (enderswift @ Aug 20, 2014 - 4...   Aug 20, 2014 - 4:51 PM
- - enderswift   Ground the cutout at the chassis. Otherwise it use...   Aug 20, 2014 - 10:18 PM
|- - JasonTX   QUOTE (enderswift @ Aug 20, 2014 - 10...   Aug 21, 2014 - 12:47 AM
- - JasonTX   Thanks again to dustin, used the files you sent me...   Aug 23, 2014 - 1:36 AM


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