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post Sep 20, 2014 - 9:33 PM
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So if anybody has been following the saga on Facebook, I bought a TRD Quickshifter from the UK for about $250 shipped. Gets here and looks nothing like TRD (top half looks exactly the same as stock).

Left: Short Shift. Right: OEM.


Upon looking at the welds underneath I came to the conclusion that this must have been a home conversion:





HOWEVER, the seller now says its a C's short shifter.... which is equally as desirable and expensive as the TRD (but perhaps even more rare). This is the pic he references from NewCelica:


http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=210641

I can't find any pics of a genuine C's shifter for ST20X. I find it strange that they would use an OEM top half... but the bottom does look the same.

Has anybody seen a C's short shifter before, or knows where to find pics? Thanks!


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post Sep 21, 2014 - 3:24 AM
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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Sep 21, 2014 - 1:38 AM) *
find a stock shifter arm and compare its bottom shaft length with the one you have. then youll have solid first hand physical evidence rather than comparing through images
QUOTE (PegGTS @ Sep 21, 2014 - 1:41 AM) *
Perhaps somebody managed to break it and it's been fixed?


A bit of both wink.gif

Those images look just like mine, and the supplied bolts are the same colour as those replaced on my plastic housing... so pretty confidant that it was a C's shifter. However, there was still no explanation for the dodgy weld.

I needed a couple of easy points to compare measurements... so I took physical measurements of the length of the lower section (from the joins to the upper and lower balls) and then from the shift boot notch to the top of the gear stick. I got measurements of 77 and 52mm respectively. I then opened up the image of a genuine item and used Paint to count pixels in the X and Y planes and used simple Pythagoras theory to get the length of the parts I measured. I could then compare the difference in length between the top and bottom section of the new C's shifter, vs my one. As it turns out, the distance below the pivot point on my one is notably shorter than the new one (whilst still being longer than stock).



The paint line that you can see above the top ball on my one is the paint line where the top of the ball was attached in the factory. A previous owner has obviously not liked how short the new shifts were, and has moved the pivot point lower, thus resulting in longer shifts (but still shorter than stock). He has then welded it in place himself, explaining the home weld job. This can be confirmed through visual cues underneath the shift ball... note on the new images tangcla provided the tapered lower section is the same size as the top section when it leaves the ball. On my images you can see that the shaft where it has been welded is already notably smaller, indicating that the taper has started higher up.

So we know finally know its story. Not sure what the seller will want to do now... because it obviously isn't worth as much as it would be unmodified.

I just picked up some washers from the hardware store so I'm going to have another go at installing it.



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Now: '00 NB8B Mazda MX5 -----> See it here in off topic!

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