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post Sep 29, 2014 - 12:10 AM
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Hello all. I have a 97 celica st. Obviously I need to ditch the 7a.
Last year I wanted to turbo the 7a and bought a bunch of parts. (Intercooler, mr2 turbo map sensor, blah blah) I soon acknowledged my stupidity.

Fast forward. In less than 2 weeks im gonna order a BEAMS engine for $1450 shipped. .CHOOSING THIS OVER 3SGTE BECAUSE IT COMES WITH LSD S54 AND THE WIRING IS SIMPLE. 3rd gen 3sgte is $1500+, and s54 is maybe 500. Factor in the cost of wiring and i would be at $2500 total. Unless one of you swap nazis are gonna give me an extra 1000 bucks, Please dont comment with the redundant "just buy a 3sgte". I already have 2nd gen pistons/rods (my good pal Garin sold me a bunch of stuff for dirt cheap), so compression isnt an issue. Also have stage 2 spec clutch, ct26 turbo, berk down pipe, axles, etc. All I would need to buy is a manifold, injectors, piggyback ecu, and fuel pump. Even if I got a 3sgte I would buy the last 2 so in reality I only need 2 extra things for this swap.

After considering all this, is it worth it for me to turbo the beams?
Does anyone know what compression gen2 pistons will give me?
Will gen 4 injectors work?
Would I have to recirculate the bov before or after the maf?

Any other helpful comments are welcome. Thank you.

This post has been edited by Arturio55: Sep 29, 2014 - 12:30 PM


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QUOTE (Azncelica @ Mar 4, 2012 - 11:43 PM) *
I started with what I know to do, I swap engine into my car, I knew it was too much work to make it a AWD. I kept it FWD. Went to take a crack at doing the wiring conversion. Than, I realize, shoot, this is out of my league.
 
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post Sep 29, 2014 - 7:41 AM
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don know much about it, but a custom turbo manifold will set u back a few dollars, and nothing will be bolt on. at least 900 by a shop. Unless you know how to weld.

Then cracking open a beams is going to set u at least, 6 weeks, and 450 usd. You have to order the gasket set from Japan or australia.

piggyback ecu? another 200 - 300 usd

injectors? another 300 usd

you will be maybe in muddy waters, as ive only seen 2 turbo beams.

so your beams 1450 + 900 + 200 + 200 + the other extras you may need, like (airbox, maf, vvti sensor) is going to cost you more in the long run... if you even have the turbo run right. If you decide to slap the beams pistons, then another 400 bucks for a gasket set and six weeks.

you may be getting into a ghost project, some people start and never finish, due to lack of info.. think about it.

Not saying it can be done, but i suggest a beams is good for what it is, a quick source of power. Nice engine, exclusive. But i wanted more and Daniel wants more HP. You will have to make the choice.


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post Sep 29, 2014 - 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 29, 2014 - 8:41 AM) *
don know much about it, but a custom turbo manifold will set u back a few dollars, and nothing will be bolt on. at least 900 by a shop. Unless you know how to weld.

Then cracking open a beams is going to set u at least, 6 weeks, and 450 usd. You have to order the gasket set from Japan or australia.

piggyback ecu? another 200 - 300 usd

injectors? another 300 usd

you will be maybe in muddy waters, as ive only seen 2 turbo beams.

so your beams 1450 + 900 + 200 + 200 + the other extras you may need, like (airbox, maf, vvti sensor) is going to cost you more in the long run... if you even have the turbo run right. If you decide to slap the beams pistons, then another 400 bucks for a gasket set and six weeks.

you may be getting into a ghost project, some people start and never finish, due to lack of info.. think about it.

Not saying it can be done, but i suggest a beams is good for what it is, a quick source of power. Nice engine, exclusive. But i wanted more and Daniel wants more HP. You will have to make the choice.


youre saying a stock 3sgte manifold wont bolt on?
piggyback can be bought for 150 on ebay at the right moment.

i understand everything youre saying, and this isnt me saying im definitely gonna do it. i just want some opinions and advice. but still if i do decide to go ahead with it, at least i could buy those parts over time and still enjoy the N/a beams for a couple months til i get everything together. instead of waiting til next year to do a 3sgte swap i would at least taste that 200hp at 7k rpms lol
also the one im getting comes with the air box, maf, vvti, etc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Toyota-Celica-...727&vxp=mtr

seller already agreed to 1450 shipped
and yea i understand the ghost project. but i would see it through to the end, whether boost or failure. it may take time but worst come to worst ill go back to n/a

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QUOTE (Azncelica @ Mar 4, 2012 - 11:43 PM) *
I started with what I know to do, I swap engine into my car, I knew it was too much work to make it a AWD. I kept it FWD. Went to take a crack at doing the wiring conversion. Than, I realize, shoot, this is out of my league.

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