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post Nov 13, 2014 - 12:06 PM
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Arturio55

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Has anyone here daily driven a 3sgte swapped celi with an s54 tranny that was 400hp or more?
Swapping very soon and im gonna build it up next year...this is my only car so just want to know my limits.
Personal experiences only, not "well I read on alltrac.net ......"
although direct links to other websites about this topic will be acceptable.
im gonna have stock internals, MAYBE the street brawler turbo kit from KO in the future, if i cant reach my goal with the ct20b


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I started with what I know to do, I swap engine into my car, I knew it was too much work to make it a AWD. I kept it FWD. Went to take a crack at doing the wiring conversion. Than, I realize, shoot, this is out of my league.
 
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post Nov 18, 2014 - 3:47 AM
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Arturio55... From what I read in this topic you already know everything you need. So I am afraid you really can not get more from here. To your question: Is here anyone who has 400HP as daily driver? (based on 20 years old car with 20 years old engine). I believe is not (but I can be wrong... I am here 10 years - true - but am not active poster anymore. Anything could change meanwhile). Why?

1) put 400HP to FWD (in terms of technology 20 years old) car and make it daily drive is stupid idea. In real world you need to corner (from time to time) not just drive straight. Front wheels need to be able to steer in first place. Not mentioning tarmac is not always perfect dry to get all power from wheels to the road. And when I say 400HP I talk about REAL power. Not some impossible fakes I read about in some topics here. I know how much REAL power can handle stock 3SGTE injectors, I know how much boost can engine internals handle... Read through some UK forums wink.gif.

2) build such a car (and running it more than few miles) cost money. Insane amount of money. You have no idea... (If I knew 5 years ago how much I pay in total I would not do it at all).

You no need to "lol" to what I wrote (what you will do for sure anyway because you have own opinion on things and you believe it's only true) - sure. Have it. Only what has left to share is:

- I had FWD Celica with GT-four power as daily drive (so far from 400HP). It was real power on wheels. Tuned on Dyno. And it was not not that funny as I expected (more scary than funny).
- I have now my second Celica (because I learned from mistakes it is GT-Four) let's say with power you aim to. I paid $35K in total and it took 5 years finishing it. I found limits of stock 3SGTE engine. And learned effective power is not just about engine... engine has now 25k miles on clock. And still perfectly running (proof of well job done).

I had my lesson. Now is your time wink.gif.

This post has been edited by malpaso: Nov 18, 2014 - 3:51 AM


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Posts in this topic
- Arturio55   400+ hp daily driven?   Nov 13, 2014 - 12:06 PM
- - Box   Try starting out with the stock 250hp or so, then ...   Nov 13, 2014 - 1:25 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 13, 2014 - 2:25 PM)...   Nov 13, 2014 - 4:56 PM
- - jordisonjr   Daily driving any vehicle with that much power wil...   Nov 13, 2014 - 2:56 PM
- - richee3   Azncelica has 433 whp. I don't know if it...   Nov 13, 2014 - 3:30 PM
- - Box   You have to learn how to walk before you can learn...   Nov 13, 2014 - 8:02 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 13, 2014 - 8:02 PM)...   Nov 13, 2014 - 8:12 PM
- - malpaso   400HP at FWD without any electronic? I believe you...   Nov 14, 2014 - 3:24 AM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (malpaso @ Nov 14, 2014 - 4:24...   Nov 14, 2014 - 9:33 AM
- - bsamps4   I wouldn't recommend stock internals for 400hp...   Nov 14, 2014 - 10:32 AM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 10:3...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:07 PM
- - richee3   Get in touch with Tao for sure. He has a great dea...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:26 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 2:26...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:38 PM
- - Box   One thing you haven't mentioned, how many mile...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:35 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 14, 2014 - 2:35 PM)...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:42 PM
- - mkernz22   You'll be pushing your luck with the ct20b. I ...   Nov 14, 2014 - 5:20 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 6:2...   Nov 14, 2014 - 8:12 PM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (Arturio55 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 8...   Nov 15, 2014 - 4:32 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Nov 15, 2014 - 4:3...   Nov 15, 2014 - 6:34 PM
- - cardshark525   From a roll to 30 almost instantly is a curious st...   Nov 14, 2014 - 10:21 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (cardshark525 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 11...   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:01 AM
|- - cardshark525   QUOTE (Arturio55 @ Nov 15, 2014 - 2...   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:12 AM
- - Box   That's what SAAB did with their turbo FWD cars...   Nov 15, 2014 - 3:16 AM
- - bsamps4   Two years of research is a lot different than two ...   Nov 15, 2014 - 11:29 AM
- - 4-eyed-freek   A bolt on 3sgte is very much underrated. When I fi...   Nov 15, 2014 - 11:38 AM
- - Arturio55   Ok I understand and see everyones point, traction,...   Nov 15, 2014 - 11:51 AM
- - Box   Alright, you're on your own. Have fun blowing...   Nov 15, 2014 - 12:52 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 15, 2014 - 1:52 PM)...   Nov 15, 2014 - 1:16 PM
- - richee3   I guess I see things a bit differently than most p...   Nov 15, 2014 - 1:06 PM
- - richee3   Oh, my bad. I forgot to link you to Tao. https:/...   Nov 15, 2014 - 1:29 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 15, 2014 - 2:29...   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:14 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   lessen wheel hope with custom made spherical bushi...   Nov 16, 2014 - 4:29 AM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 16, 2014 - 4...   Nov 16, 2014 - 11:59 AM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (Arturio55 @ Nov 16, 2014 - 11...   Nov 16, 2014 - 6:29 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Nov 16, 2014 - 7:2...   Nov 16, 2014 - 7:11 PM
- - richee3   Just throwing this out there but the BEAMS is NOWH...   Nov 16, 2014 - 7:39 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 16, 2014 - 7:39...   Nov 16, 2014 - 7:51 PM
- - malpaso   Arturio55... From what I read in this topic you al...   Nov 18, 2014 - 3:47 AM
- - 4-eyed-freek   Could not have been said better ^^^   Nov 18, 2014 - 11:12 AM
- - Arturio55   Malpaso, thank you for understanding that I do act...   Nov 18, 2014 - 12:12 PM
|- - jordisonjr   QUOTE (Arturio55 @ Nov 18, 2014 - 1...   Nov 19, 2014 - 9:23 AM
- - Arturio55   Tao didnt accept my fb request yet lol...either wa...   Nov 19, 2014 - 12:09 PM
- - Nial   I saw once a FWD celica with a played with 3SGTE, ...   Nov 19, 2014 - 12:37 PM
- - Arturio55   Thanks for the input, and for understanding that i...   Nov 19, 2014 - 12:48 PM
- - richee3   You might want to look into EMS's that allow b...   Nov 19, 2014 - 5:32 PM
- - Arturio55   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 19, 2014 - 6:32...   Nov 19, 2014 - 6:16 PM


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