6G Celicas Forums

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> 400+ hp daily driven?
post Nov 13, 2014 - 12:06 PM
+Quote Post
Arturio55

Enthusiast
**
Joined Mar 6, '13
From New jersey
Currently Offline

Reputation: 4 (83%)




Has anyone here daily driven a 3sgte swapped celi with an s54 tranny that was 400hp or more?
Swapping very soon and im gonna build it up next year...this is my only car so just want to know my limits.
Personal experiences only, not "well I read on alltrac.net ......"
although direct links to other websites about this topic will be acceptable.
im gonna have stock internals, MAYBE the street brawler turbo kit from KO in the future, if i cant reach my goal with the ct20b


--------------------
QUOTE (Azncelica @ Mar 4, 2012 - 11:43 PM) *
I started with what I know to do, I swap engine into my car, I knew it was too much work to make it a AWD. I kept it FWD. Went to take a crack at doing the wiring conversion. Than, I realize, shoot, this is out of my league.
 
Start new topic
Replies
post Nov 19, 2014 - 12:37 PM
+Quote Post
Nial



Enthusiast
***
Joined Aug 25, '08
From England
Currently Offline

Reputation: 1 (100%)




I saw once a FWD celica with a played with 3SGTE, not sure how many BHP it had but it was more than standard, I believe it was more or less a daily driver so it has been done, what it was like to drive and live with God only knows.

It will certainly be an interesting challenge that's for sure. 400bhp in an AWD Celica is interesting enough.

If it goes bang after 200 miles, as long as you are prepared for that then so what!!!!! You will learn a valuable lesson, make changes and try again, as long as you have patience, learn from your lessons and have pretty deep pockets it will be a fun journey.....but also take advice from people who have been down this road, not many have but it may save you from spending a lot of money you may not need to. Also don't fixate on a number, the last thing you want to do is chase BHP figures as it will almost certainly end in tears one way or another. If you don't have deep pockets then I would think again, it won't be cheap and if things do go south and you can't afford to fix it, it will all be for nothing and very frustrating. Hardly anything on a 3sgte is cheap....apart from the scrap value.

Going from my experience I would do a straight swap with a standard 3sgte engine, run that for a while and see what you think, it might not be the way you want to go, but you will learn about the engine, and perhaps be able to better guide yourself as to which modifications would work best. Even just changing the ECU to a fully mappable version can make such a difference to a car. I managed to get near to 340BHP with an ECU, hybrid turbo and boost controller, & 1.3 bar , the engine was otherwise completely standard. That was more or less the limit of the injectors, managed to clock up 235,000 miles like that, over 100,000 of those at 1.1 to 1.3 bar. FWD will certainly place less strain on the engine which will help things last. Also if you have big BHP available dosnt mean you have to use it, you could have a daily setting and a weekend setting on the ECU. What ever you decide I hope it goes well.


--------------------
My Facebook GT4 Build page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/GT4Rebuild

Posts in this topic
- Arturio55   400+ hp daily driven?   Nov 13, 2014 - 12:06 PM
- - Box   Try starting out with the stock 250hp or so, then ...   Nov 13, 2014 - 1:25 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 13, 2014 - 2:25 PM)...   Nov 13, 2014 - 4:56 PM
- - jordisonjr   Daily driving any vehicle with that much power wil...   Nov 13, 2014 - 2:56 PM
- - richee3   Azncelica has 433 whp. I don't know if it...   Nov 13, 2014 - 3:30 PM
- - Box   You have to learn how to walk before you can learn...   Nov 13, 2014 - 8:02 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 13, 2014 - 8:02 PM)...   Nov 13, 2014 - 8:12 PM
- - malpaso   400HP at FWD without any electronic? I believe you...   Nov 14, 2014 - 3:24 AM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (malpaso @ Nov 14, 2014 - 4:24...   Nov 14, 2014 - 9:33 AM
- - bsamps4   I wouldn't recommend stock internals for 400hp...   Nov 14, 2014 - 10:32 AM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 10:3...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:07 PM
- - richee3   Get in touch with Tao for sure. He has a great dea...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:26 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 2:26...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:38 PM
- - Box   One thing you haven't mentioned, how many mile...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:35 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 14, 2014 - 2:35 PM)...   Nov 14, 2014 - 1:42 PM
- - mkernz22   You'll be pushing your luck with the ct20b. I ...   Nov 14, 2014 - 5:20 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 6:2...   Nov 14, 2014 - 8:12 PM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (Arturio55 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 8...   Nov 15, 2014 - 4:32 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Nov 15, 2014 - 4:3...   Nov 15, 2014 - 6:34 PM
- - cardshark525   From a roll to 30 almost instantly is a curious st...   Nov 14, 2014 - 10:21 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (cardshark525 @ Nov 14, 2014 - 11...   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:01 AM
|- - cardshark525   QUOTE (Arturio55 @ Nov 15, 2014 - 2...   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:12 AM
- - Box   That's what SAAB did with their turbo FWD cars...   Nov 15, 2014 - 3:16 AM
- - bsamps4   Two years of research is a lot different than two ...   Nov 15, 2014 - 11:29 AM
- - 4-eyed-freek   A bolt on 3sgte is very much underrated. When I fi...   Nov 15, 2014 - 11:38 AM
- - Arturio55   Ok I understand and see everyones point, traction,...   Nov 15, 2014 - 11:51 AM
- - Box   Alright, you're on your own. Have fun blowing...   Nov 15, 2014 - 12:52 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (Box @ Nov 15, 2014 - 1:52 PM)...   Nov 15, 2014 - 1:16 PM
- - richee3   I guess I see things a bit differently than most p...   Nov 15, 2014 - 1:06 PM
- - richee3   Oh, my bad. I forgot to link you to Tao. https:/...   Nov 15, 2014 - 1:29 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 15, 2014 - 2:29...   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:14 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   lessen wheel hope with custom made spherical bushi...   Nov 16, 2014 - 4:29 AM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 16, 2014 - 4...   Nov 16, 2014 - 11:59 AM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (Arturio55 @ Nov 16, 2014 - 11...   Nov 16, 2014 - 6:29 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Nov 16, 2014 - 7:2...   Nov 16, 2014 - 7:11 PM
- - richee3   Just throwing this out there but the BEAMS is NOWH...   Nov 16, 2014 - 7:39 PM
|- - Arturio55   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 16, 2014 - 7:39...   Nov 16, 2014 - 7:51 PM
- - malpaso   Arturio55... From what I read in this topic you al...   Nov 18, 2014 - 3:47 AM
- - 4-eyed-freek   Could not have been said better ^^^   Nov 18, 2014 - 11:12 AM
- - Arturio55   Malpaso, thank you for understanding that I do act...   Nov 18, 2014 - 12:12 PM
|- - jordisonjr   QUOTE (Arturio55 @ Nov 18, 2014 - 1...   Nov 19, 2014 - 9:23 AM
- - Arturio55   Tao didnt accept my fb request yet lol...either wa...   Nov 19, 2014 - 12:09 PM
- - Nial   I saw once a FWD celica with a played with 3SGTE, ...   Nov 19, 2014 - 12:37 PM
- - Arturio55   Thanks for the input, and for understanding that i...   Nov 19, 2014 - 12:48 PM
- - richee3   You might want to look into EMS's that allow b...   Nov 19, 2014 - 5:32 PM
- - Arturio55   QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 19, 2014 - 6:32...   Nov 19, 2014 - 6:16 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
12 User(s) are reading this topic (12 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: February 22nd, 2025 - 2:08 AM