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post May 25, 2009 - 11:58 AM
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Hello!!! i read about the diferences, upgrades ++ about 2gen vs 3gen 3S-GTE`s but i didnt read anything about the 4Gen 3S-GTE. Anyones knows the diferences betwen those engines? what parts are the same, what performance parts cant be use on the 4gen?

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post May 6, 2016 - 4:03 PM
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Just a little thread revive. My input on my experience of swapping out of the 97 5sfe s54 to 3sgte gen4. This was my very first time attempt to do a major project myself. Just to give you an idea. I went in this swap not even knowing how to change a clutch. Let it alone how a clutch/pressure plate/flywheel all works together.

This is a very Plug And Play swap imo. I ordered a gen4 3sgte, ecu, and wire harness. The only things I didn't do myself was the wiring harness. I had it sent out to wiregap to wire it up for me because I have no clue about wiring. Also I had my intercooler and my exhaust set up done by a shop because I lack in tools for welding and mandrel bends. I literally did all the hard labor myself from removing the hood down, pulling the engine out, putting it back in, and putting the hood back on. It felt like i dropped my 5sfe back in. Why? Because all my lines lined up and fits the gen4 accessories. Ac lines, PS lines, and fuel lines all fit. Don't need to swap over the 5sfe parts. The fuel return line and heater hoses, I had bought new universal lines to replace them because they weren't long enough and are old. I am currently using stock fuel pump with no problem and stock radiator + hoses with no problem. I'm also using the stock s54 with south bend 3sgte stage 2 pressure plate, ACT s54/3sgte hybrid clutch, xtr 3sgte lightweight flywheel. Also I went with the 10k ohm resistor mod for my rpm gauge to read the rpm signals properly which was like $12 fix that came with 5 resistors vs the msd mod whic costs more. So from my experience of never doing a swap to doing a swap. It's an easy swap that any one that's good with turning wrenches can do.

Yes. What they say about turbo spool is true. Spools quick and responds quick. My main reason for a gen4 vs a gen3 is because my power goal is something that's an easy swap and will have enough power to keep up with some "bolt on" street cars. So 260hp isn't a bad start. Hopefully after all these bolt ons. I'd be in the mid-high 200whp. Should be an easy 13s car which is good enough for me. I'll see how long my GT fuel pump will last me before I swap to the 255.


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Posts in this topic
- fran   Gen 3 Vs Gen 4   May 25, 2009 - 11:58 AM
- - domyz   3rd gen intercooling(water to air) is by far bette...   May 25, 2009 - 12:57 PM
- - Nial   4th gen has a higher compression ratio which makes...   May 28, 2009 - 2:04 AM
- - reko   4th gens use coil pack = you'll have to run a ...   May 30, 2009 - 1:38 PM
|- - 3WayStunna   QUOTE (reko @ May 30, 2009 - 1:38 PM...   May 30, 2009 - 3:48 PM
- - pitcelica   QUOTE Anywho, to actually contribute to this threa...   May 31, 2009 - 7:41 AM
- - 3WayStunna   I stand corrected   May 31, 2009 - 9:15 AM
- - easternpiro1   here are some more differences i keep laying aroun...   May 31, 2009 - 11:53 AM
- - pitcelica   QUOTE -The injectors are the same as the ST205 one...   May 31, 2009 - 12:45 PM
- - Marchius   One question - will 3rd gen engine gaskets fit to ...   Oct 3, 2013 - 7:51 AM
- - easternpiro1   I wonder though... why did toyota go with differen...   Oct 10, 2013 - 5:22 PM
- - Smaay   are you sure about the high impedance injectors? e...   Oct 10, 2013 - 10:45 PM
- - presure2   Yup, the 4th gen has high impedance injectors.   Oct 12, 2013 - 10:15 AM
- - delusionz   so does it bolt in with the same 3 bolts? sounds l...   Oct 24, 2013 - 7:05 AM
- - match220   The alternator on the 4th gen is larger with a hig...   Dec 15, 2013 - 7:59 AM
- - pitcelica   QUOTE (match220 @ Dec 15, 2013 - 1:5...   Dec 15, 2013 - 10:26 AM
|- - match220   QUOTE (pitcelica @ Dec 15, 2013 - 5...   Dec 15, 2013 - 10:51 AM
- - easternpiro1   Larger alternator? Im using one from the 5sfe....   Dec 20, 2013 - 7:09 PM
- - MR2fanatic   We have alot of information on the gen4 3sgte alon...   Jan 6, 2014 - 11:04 PM
- - JasonTX   QUOTE (MR2fanatic @ Jan 7, 2014 - 12...   Jan 7, 2014 - 1:49 AM
|- - cardshark525   QUOTE (JasonTX @ Jan 7, 2014 - 1:49 ...   Jan 7, 2014 - 9:09 AM
- - MR2fanatic   Thanks for the feedback guys! Cardshark,how is...   Jan 12, 2014 - 2:32 PM
- - ILoveMySilly97   Just a little thread revive. My input on my experi...   May 6, 2016 - 4:03 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   No not the whining fuel pump dont do it. I had it ...   May 8, 2016 - 12:03 AM
- - ILoveMySilly97   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 7, 2016 - 10...   May 9, 2016 - 5:58 PM


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