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post Jun 13, 2016 - 4:45 PM
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Hi everyone,

My mechanic has told me that my 5S-FE engine has about 2 more years to go and at 230,000 miles he might be right (my car, when cold, exhales white smoke though the tail pipe). I could either do an overhaul or drop in a new engine and make it stick shift in the process. So, if I were to drop in a new engine, what I need to know what would be more convenient. These are the options so far:

  1. A 3rd gen 3S-GTE with AWD
  2. A 4th gen 3S-GTE with AWD
  3. A 4th gen 3S-GTE with FWD


Since I have seen 4th Gen 3S-GTE from Caldinas for sale with Manual trasnmissions and FWD, I assume that No. 3 above is possible. That would be great as I wouldn't have to spend that much money to convert to AWD since my Celica is FWD. So, is it possible to use a 4th gen in a '96 Celica? I remember reading it is possible somewhere in this site, but I would like confirmation on this. Also, I read here years ago that if one deicedes to use a 3rd gen 3S-GTE AWD and just use the front wheels instead of doing the conversion to AWD, one would lose about half the power from the engine, so if it is possible to do an engine swap with a 4th gen. 3S-GTE FWD would I get the whole 3S-GTE power in just the two front wheels?

What would you recommend I do? Any input would be greatly appreciated.


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post Jun 14, 2016 - 11:27 AM
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Yes being in CA the rule is for swaps is the engine must be same year or newer than the car, all smog devices installed and working, and must be same config as what it came out of.

This mean manual to manual, auto to auto. conversions are allowed too. But in the case of a 3MZ-FE only came to the US with an auto trans so you can NOT mount it to a manual. make sense?

That being said, if you have a 94, Technically you could put a 95 MR2 3S-GTE in there. and going a little deeper, you might get away with a 3rd gen JDM swap since Its still not ODBII.

Myself i have a 97 so I went with a "97" 1MZ It was actually a 1MZ from a 2002 solara however im running it on 97 Camry electronics. 1MZ is a 1MZ. so to be legal in CA that was my only option.

NOW, I have seen countless of other "swaps" and deals made to get around SMOG. but i know nothing.

Ok to answer your AWD issues. Just because you get an engine from an AWD car does not mean you have to keep it AWD. if you read the stickies, you will learn that all you have to do is take off the AWD trans and mount a FWD trans to the engine.

if you want to convert your car to AWD, well thats another story, I hope you have deep pockets


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