I am just going to run low boost. . . yea right!, A warning for anyone who wants to boost a 5sfe |
I am just going to run low boost. . . yea right!, A warning for anyone who wants to boost a 5sfe |
Apr 6, 2016 - 12:21 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 7, '15 From New Mexico Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
This is a cautionary tale to anyone who thinks they are going to slap a turbo on a high mileage engine and run low boost. DON’T DO IT! In December of 2014 despite all the posts that say, don’t boost your engine unless it is low mileage or rebuilt, I went for it. Is the 5sfe a great engine to boost, yes, but do it right. This post will tell the LONG, expensive, frustrating story to creating my 5sfte. The below write up is what happened.
Background It has been a long road for this 5sfte build. Here is the engine I started with: I saw what Supershannon77 did with an Ebay T3/4 turbo for her 6th gen Celica 5sfte and I tried to duplicate it (with a few upgrades). I bought an Ebay kit with the idea that I would need to modify or replace some of the parts that came in it but the bottom line was it would give me a turbo, intercooler, exhaust manifold, downpipe, and some miscellaneous needed parts. As I started the build I found the kit seriously lacking. The big one was the downpipe was for a CT26 turbo not a T3/4 so I had to order one. There was no oil return line and there was not enough intercooler piping. It took 3 months to resolve all the issues with the advertised “bolt-on” kit (there is no such thing as bolt on from Ebay), I ended up with the following build: 8 psi boost T3/T04E Turbo Turbosmart Wastegate 2.5 inch full exhaust Magnaflow Muffler and Catalytic Converter AEM FIC Piggyback SSQV Blow Off Valve 460cc RX-7 Injectors FMIC Walpro 255 Fuel Pump 3sgte 3 Bar MAP Sensor Custom downpipe from Demon Motorsports Ebay tubular exhaust manifold I started noticing when I would pop the hood after a drive that there was an extreme amount of heat coming out of the engine bay. I also saw that the under hood insulation was burning away. After doing some digging, I found that the tubular manifold I was using was giving off too much heat instead of shooting it down to the exhaust. I needed a 3sgte manifold. I went to the Toyota dealership and they told me that all their warehouses are out of stock and that the best bet was to find a used one. That led to one option, Ebay. After about a week of missing out on bids I finally scored a 3sgte manifold. It arrived and I was so excited, I ceramic coated it and put it on and the car was back! Then another problem reared its head, the clutch started slipping. I bought a SPEC stage 2 clutch, got it installed and the car ran like a champ. In the process of tuning the car, I sprung a fuel leak that lead to an engine fire. I think it the Walpro fuel pump put too much pressure on the original lines coming from the fuel filter and something popped. Now here I am, where I should have started. In hindsight I should have rebuilt the engine before going down the turbo route. My plan was to fix the fire damage and rebuild the engine to a 14-15 psi boost-able monster. My goal is 280-300 horsepower. Based on what I saw in Pressure2’s build, I can use stock pistons and rods but I will need a metal head gasket. I planned to swap the California cylinder head with a Federal head so the fuel injectors fit perfectly. |
Oct 6, 2016 - 10:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 2, '15 From NY Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Thanks for sharing the experience.
Having performed an autopsy on the engine, were you able to determine the cause of the demise? Fuel mixture problem? Timing problem? To answer one of your questions: 1 (auto vs man ecu) Auto ECU will throw CEL for transmission shift solenoids. You can install a few large-ish resistors to overcome this - you can find details in some Gen3 Camry auto-to-manual swap threads. No impact on engine performance. Yes, easier to go with Manual ECU in the first place if you can, but not the end of the world if you cannot source one. |
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