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post Sep 8, 2017 - 8:14 PM
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HardHead93

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I just got my MS3PRO EVO in for my conversion to standalone on my 4th gen 3sgte. I am planning on taking my time with this install to make sure all the wiring is correct and clean looking. To help with the install I grabbed a 5sfe ECU and mounting hardware out of a junkyard car to use as a template for mounting the Megasquirt into the car.









Got relays, distribution blocks, and different color wiring for a clean centralized install.




My goal is to wire the ECU up for as many features as possible and once I get good tune running, start enabling the features. I spent the last few days reading the instruction manual and it has me excited with how much it can do.

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post Oct 18, 2017 - 2:18 PM
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I have gotten my engine settings all dialed in and ready for the tuner. Below are the setting I am using. This should get anyone started with their Gen 4 3sgte with a Megasquirt. I am not providing timing or fuel maps because those may be different per engine. TunerStudio can set up a basic fuel map for you using the stock specs of the motor. The stock specs I used are:
Bore: 86mm (unless you have bored out your motor)
Horsepower: 256 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 239 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm

As far as timing use this calculator to get you started.
http://www.useasydocs.com/theory/spktable.htm

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Do not go out driving your car hard with an un-tuned fuel and timing map. You will damage your motor. The idea behind a base map is to get the car to start, allow you to tune your idle, and calibrate sensors. You may be able to do some light driving on the car but THAT IS IT! Take your car to a tuner as soon as you feel you have worked out all the electrical gremlins that may pop up.

Engine and Sequential Settings
Control Algorithm: Speed Density
Squirts per Engine Cycle: 1
Injector Staging: Simultaneous
Engine Stroke: Rotary: Four Stroke
No. Cylinders/Rotors: 4
Number of Injectors: 4
Engine Type: Even Fire
Engine Size (cc): 1998
Injector Size (540)
Main Fuel Outputs: Inj A,B..
Sequential On: Fully Sequential
Angle Specifies: End of squirt
Injector Trim: Off
Firing Order
A:1
B:2
C:3
D:4
For the firing order make sure you have wired the injectors and coils in a 1-3-4-2 order.

Ignition Options/Wheel Decoder
Spark Mode: Toothed wheel
Trigger Angle: (not needed)
Angle Between Main and Return (deg): (not needed)
Oddfire Angle: (not needed)
GM HEI/DIS: Off
Oddfire Phasing: (not needed)
Skip Pulses: 2
Ignition Input Capture: Rising Edge
Spark Output: Going High
Number of Coils: Coil on plug
Spark Hardware In Use: Spark
Cam Input (See tooltip): CMP
Tertiary Tach Input: (not needed)
Flip Polarity On Hi-Res Tach / Cam: (not needed)
Trigger wheel arrangement: Dual wheel with missing tooth
Trigger wheel (teeth): 36
Missing teeth (teeth): 2
Tooth #1 angle: 572.0
Main Wheel speed: Crank wheel
Second trigger active on: Rising Edge

Posts in this topic
- HardHead93   MS3PRO EVO on 4th Gen 3sgte   Sep 8, 2017 - 8:14 PM
- - HardHead93   Just started the planning and laying out of the MS...   Sep 10, 2017 - 4:48 PM
- - HardHead93   I have finished building the box where all my conn...   Sep 11, 2017 - 12:33 AM
- - HardHead93   I have started to solder the ECU wiring to the 122...   Sep 12, 2017 - 9:21 PM
- - sandusky1977   Watching this thread with excitement. Looking at d...   Sep 13, 2017 - 8:48 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (sandusky1977 @ Sep 13, 2017 - 8...   Sep 14, 2017 - 3:24 PM
- - HardHead93   To compare the differences between the MS3PRO EVO ...   Sep 15, 2017 - 5:11 PM
- - slavie   Your dedication is fascinating and inspiring at th...   Sep 15, 2017 - 11:17 PM
- - pitcelica   Hi, I did a MS3+MS3X install on a ST215 engine in...   Sep 17, 2017 - 1:36 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (pitcelica @ Sep 17, 2017 - 2...   Sep 17, 2017 - 3:00 PM
- - HardHead93   CELEBRATION!!!! I got the Celi...   Sep 24, 2017 - 2:56 AM
- - lagos   Congrats on getting it running! Injector volt...   Sep 24, 2017 - 10:01 AM
- - HardHead93   Here is a video of me starting the car with the Me...   Sep 24, 2017 - 4:41 PM
- - HardHead93   Does anyone know how to check timing with a coil o...   Sep 24, 2017 - 7:33 PM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Sep 25, 2017 - 2...   Sep 26, 2017 - 2:20 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Sep 26, 2017 - 3:20 ...   Oct 18, 2017 - 1:47 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Sep 24, 2017 - 5...   Sep 24, 2017 - 9:49 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 24, 2017 - 10:49 ...   Sep 24, 2017 - 11:42 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 24, 2017 - 10:49 ...   Sep 25, 2017 - 4:21 PM
- - HardHead93   I did some research and found the injector dead ti...   Sep 28, 2017 - 1:04 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Sep 28, 2017 - 2...   Oct 21, 2017 - 2:35 PM
- - HardHead93   I got my ignition timing set. I had to make a 3 d...   Oct 8, 2017 - 8:57 PM
- - HardHead93   I finished up the last of the wiring for the Megas...   Oct 10, 2017 - 10:01 PM
- - HardHead93   I have gotten my engine settings all dialed in and...   Oct 18, 2017 - 2:18 PM
- - Smaay   why not use 1ZZ coils?   Oct 25, 2017 - 9:49 PM
- - HardHead93   I spent the last few days tracking down issues to ...   Oct 29, 2017 - 7:13 PM
- - HardHead93   I can't seem to get rid of this cam sensor fau...   Nov 3, 2017 - 8:08 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Nov 3, 2017 - 8...   Nov 4, 2017 - 1:17 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Nov 4, 2017 - 1...   Nov 4, 2017 - 7:52 PM
- - HardHead93   Since I am planning on getting the car tuned soon,...   Nov 6, 2017 - 7:02 PM
- - slavie   So which 850CC injectors are these? What did they ...   Nov 8, 2017 - 1:42 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Nov 8, 2017 - 1:42 P...   Nov 8, 2017 - 4:11 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Nov 8, 2017 - 5...   Nov 15, 2017 - 8:36 AM
|- - slavie   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Nov 15, 2017 - 9...   Nov 16, 2017 - 2:38 PM
- - HardHead93   I have tracked down the last of the MS3PRO issues ...   Nov 11, 2017 - 8:33 AM
- - Bitter   Put some foam sleeves around them? I know my 7G ca...   Nov 15, 2017 - 10:03 PM
- - HardHead93   I finally got the car tuned with the MS3PRO EVO. ...   Dec 4, 2017 - 8:49 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   aweseome stuff. just swiftly read over your whole ...   Dec 5, 2017 - 2:00 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Dec 5, 2017 - 2...   Dec 5, 2017 - 8:03 PM
- - lagos   Can you post up a before and after of the ignition...   Dec 10, 2017 - 9:46 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 10, 2017 - 10:46 ...   Dec 11, 2017 - 10:19 AM
- - HardHead93   I wasn't happy with how the Innovate SCG-1 Boo...   Dec 13, 2017 - 9:38 PM
- - HardHead93   I started playing with the flex fuel settings in T...   Dec 28, 2017 - 5:02 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Are you looking to run E85 on this one?   Mar 20, 2018 - 5:29 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Mar 20, 2018 - 5...   Mar 23, 2018 - 8:18 AM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Oh sweet! How's your fuel tank holding up?...   Mar 28, 2018 - 4:27 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Mar 28, 2018 - 4...   Mar 31, 2018 - 8:15 AM
- - presure2   lots of cool stuff here man! boost by gear can...   Mar 31, 2018 - 8:40 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 31, 2018 - 9:4...   Apr 1, 2018 - 11:18 PM
- - njccmd2002   lol, facebook guys actually putting a lot of misin...   Mar 31, 2018 - 7:31 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Sweet! Good to hear! I can't wait to g...   Mar 31, 2018 - 10:43 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   I forgot to ask: What injectors/rail are you runni...   Apr 3, 2018 - 10:43 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Apr 3, 2018 - 10...   Apr 4, 2018 - 11:33 AM
|- - NgoFcukinWay   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Apr 4, 2018 - 11...   Apr 5, 2018 - 10:08 PM
- - HardHead93   I am currently running my Walbro255 fuel pump with...   Apr 6, 2018 - 7:50 PM
- - presure2   pretty sure walbro makes a e85 compatible replacem...   Apr 7, 2018 - 6:24 AM
- - NgoFcukinWay   I have a Walbro 450 in the Supra. It's an E85-...   Apr 7, 2018 - 11:12 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Apr 7, 2018 - 11...   Apr 8, 2018 - 9:16 AM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Wouldn't hurt to have one that way you can run...   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:02 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Apr 12, 2018 - 11...   Apr 20, 2018 - 8:11 PM
- - HardHead93   I got my car re-tuned with the Sweet 16 CT15 turbo...   Apr 23, 2018 - 7:46 PM
- - HardHead93   Check out my YouTube video of the tuning session: ...   Apr 25, 2018 - 5:04 AM
- - presure2   good stuff man and decent #s for sure! tq look...   Apr 28, 2018 - 7:14 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (presure2 @ Apr 28, 2018 - 8:1...   Apr 28, 2018 - 1:01 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Holy ****. That's nice. That retune is definit...   Apr 28, 2018 - 5:59 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Apr 28, 2018 - 6...   Apr 28, 2018 - 6:51 PM
- - Lindsley   Thanks for sharing   Nov 28, 2020 - 7:25 AM


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