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post Sep 8, 2017 - 8:14 PM
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HardHead93

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I just got my MS3PRO EVO in for my conversion to standalone on my 4th gen 3sgte. I am planning on taking my time with this install to make sure all the wiring is correct and clean looking. To help with the install I grabbed a 5sfe ECU and mounting hardware out of a junkyard car to use as a template for mounting the Megasquirt into the car.









Got relays, distribution blocks, and different color wiring for a clean centralized install.




My goal is to wire the ECU up for as many features as possible and once I get good tune running, start enabling the features. I spent the last few days reading the instruction manual and it has me excited with how much it can do.

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I started playing with the flex fuel settings in TunerStudio following some guidelines I read on various forums. The software has the ability to do flex fuel in one of 2 ways.
1. It can use the flex fuel sensor to add a set amount of timing and fuel based on ethanol percentage.
2. It can blend tables between a regular fuel/ignition/boost table and a e85 table based on ethanol percentage.

I chose the second because it gives more flexibility to make changes in parts of the table where AFR is too rich or too lean. Right now I am getting all the settings set up so that my next tuning session will not take that long. Here are the setting used for table blending.
Flex Settings

You have to be very careful when selecting these settings. Make sure if you plan to do table blending that the "Fuel Multiplier" is set to 100 on both low and high. Also the Timing addition needs to be set to 0 in both fields. You only used those values if you plan to do the option 1 of flex fuel tuning I talked about above. Changing those values will add fuel and timing on top of your table blending which could cause some problems (engine knock or flooded motor). Next is the table blending curve:
Flex Blending Curve

This tell the ECU how to blend your 2 curves. Most regular fuel has some level of ethanol in it. Whatever that is in your area (your flex fuel sensor will tell you), that is what you put as your first data point. For me we area at about 12% in our 91 octane fuel. The top of the curve will be 85% ethanol which is for a full tank of e85. The Blend % tells the ECU how much of the normal fuel and e85 fuel tables to use (0% is all regular fuel, 100% is full e85). I will warn you most pumps do not carry full e85. In my area it is more like e65, but you want your ECU to be ready if you do luck out on true e85. Next are my tables:
Flex Fuel Table 1
Flex Ignition Table 1
Flex Boost 1

On the left is the normal fuel table and the right is the e85. For my fuel table I added 46% across the whole board and let EGO control adjust from there (again I am just dialing in basic settings the tuner will sort out the rest). For timing I added 5 degrees across the board except in the idle areas of the map. For the boost it was a little more tricky. First I dialed in the boost settings for 14-15 psi on 91 octane. Then I ran the tank dry and filled it up with e85. I dialed in the boost settings at 16-17 psi for e85. I did this because you can run more boost and timing with e85 and you definitely feel it on the road. Now that I have some basic drivable settings with a well tuned 91 octane map, I will take it back to the tuner to get is really dialed in.

Posts in this topic
- HardHead93   MS3PRO EVO on 4th Gen 3sgte   Sep 8, 2017 - 8:14 PM
- - HardHead93   Just started the planning and laying out of the MS...   Sep 10, 2017 - 4:48 PM
- - HardHead93   I have finished building the box where all my conn...   Sep 11, 2017 - 12:33 AM
- - HardHead93   I have started to solder the ECU wiring to the 122...   Sep 12, 2017 - 9:21 PM
- - sandusky1977   Watching this thread with excitement. Looking at d...   Sep 13, 2017 - 8:48 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (sandusky1977 @ Sep 13, 2017 - 8...   Sep 14, 2017 - 3:24 PM
- - HardHead93   To compare the differences between the MS3PRO EVO ...   Sep 15, 2017 - 5:11 PM
- - slavie   Your dedication is fascinating and inspiring at th...   Sep 15, 2017 - 11:17 PM
- - pitcelica   Hi, I did a MS3+MS3X install on a ST215 engine in...   Sep 17, 2017 - 1:36 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (pitcelica @ Sep 17, 2017 - 2...   Sep 17, 2017 - 3:00 PM
- - HardHead93   CELEBRATION!!!! I got the Celi...   Sep 24, 2017 - 2:56 AM
- - lagos   Congrats on getting it running! Injector volt...   Sep 24, 2017 - 10:01 AM
- - HardHead93   Here is a video of me starting the car with the Me...   Sep 24, 2017 - 4:41 PM
- - HardHead93   Does anyone know how to check timing with a coil o...   Sep 24, 2017 - 7:33 PM
|- - Hafkai   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Sep 25, 2017 - 2...   Sep 26, 2017 - 2:20 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Hafkai @ Sep 26, 2017 - 3:20 ...   Oct 18, 2017 - 1:47 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Sep 24, 2017 - 5...   Sep 24, 2017 - 9:49 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 24, 2017 - 10:49 ...   Sep 24, 2017 - 11:42 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 24, 2017 - 10:49 ...   Sep 25, 2017 - 4:21 PM
- - HardHead93   I did some research and found the injector dead ti...   Sep 28, 2017 - 1:04 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Sep 28, 2017 - 2...   Oct 21, 2017 - 2:35 PM
- - HardHead93   I got my ignition timing set. I had to make a 3 d...   Oct 8, 2017 - 8:57 PM
- - HardHead93   I finished up the last of the wiring for the Megas...   Oct 10, 2017 - 10:01 PM
- - HardHead93   I have gotten my engine settings all dialed in and...   Oct 18, 2017 - 2:18 PM
- - Smaay   why not use 1ZZ coils?   Oct 25, 2017 - 9:49 PM
- - HardHead93   I spent the last few days tracking down issues to ...   Oct 29, 2017 - 7:13 PM
- - HardHead93   I can't seem to get rid of this cam sensor fau...   Nov 3, 2017 - 8:08 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Nov 3, 2017 - 8...   Nov 4, 2017 - 1:17 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Nov 4, 2017 - 1...   Nov 4, 2017 - 7:52 PM
- - HardHead93   Since I am planning on getting the car tuned soon,...   Nov 6, 2017 - 7:02 PM
- - slavie   So which 850CC injectors are these? What did they ...   Nov 8, 2017 - 1:42 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Nov 8, 2017 - 1:42 P...   Nov 8, 2017 - 4:11 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Nov 8, 2017 - 5...   Nov 15, 2017 - 8:36 AM
|- - slavie   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Nov 15, 2017 - 9...   Nov 16, 2017 - 2:38 PM
- - HardHead93   I have tracked down the last of the MS3PRO issues ...   Nov 11, 2017 - 8:33 AM
- - Bitter   Put some foam sleeves around them? I know my 7G ca...   Nov 15, 2017 - 10:03 PM
- - HardHead93   I finally got the car tuned with the MS3PRO EVO. ...   Dec 4, 2017 - 8:49 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   aweseome stuff. just swiftly read over your whole ...   Dec 5, 2017 - 2:00 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Dec 5, 2017 - 2...   Dec 5, 2017 - 8:03 PM
- - lagos   Can you post up a before and after of the ignition...   Dec 10, 2017 - 9:46 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 10, 2017 - 10:46 ...   Dec 11, 2017 - 10:19 AM
- - HardHead93   I wasn't happy with how the Innovate SCG-1 Boo...   Dec 13, 2017 - 9:38 PM
- - HardHead93   I started playing with the flex fuel settings in T...   Dec 28, 2017 - 5:02 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Are you looking to run E85 on this one?   Mar 20, 2018 - 5:29 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Mar 20, 2018 - 5...   Mar 23, 2018 - 8:18 AM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Oh sweet! How's your fuel tank holding up?...   Mar 28, 2018 - 4:27 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Mar 28, 2018 - 4...   Mar 31, 2018 - 8:15 AM
- - presure2   lots of cool stuff here man! boost by gear can...   Mar 31, 2018 - 8:40 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 31, 2018 - 9:4...   Apr 1, 2018 - 11:18 PM
- - njccmd2002   lol, facebook guys actually putting a lot of misin...   Mar 31, 2018 - 7:31 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Sweet! Good to hear! I can't wait to g...   Mar 31, 2018 - 10:43 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   I forgot to ask: What injectors/rail are you runni...   Apr 3, 2018 - 10:43 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Apr 3, 2018 - 10...   Apr 4, 2018 - 11:33 AM
|- - NgoFcukinWay   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Apr 4, 2018 - 11...   Apr 5, 2018 - 10:08 PM
- - HardHead93   I am currently running my Walbro255 fuel pump with...   Apr 6, 2018 - 7:50 PM
- - presure2   pretty sure walbro makes a e85 compatible replacem...   Apr 7, 2018 - 6:24 AM
- - NgoFcukinWay   I have a Walbro 450 in the Supra. It's an E85-...   Apr 7, 2018 - 11:12 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Apr 7, 2018 - 11...   Apr 8, 2018 - 9:16 AM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Wouldn't hurt to have one that way you can run...   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:02 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Apr 12, 2018 - 11...   Apr 20, 2018 - 8:11 PM
- - HardHead93   I got my car re-tuned with the Sweet 16 CT15 turbo...   Apr 23, 2018 - 7:46 PM
- - HardHead93   Check out my YouTube video of the tuning session: ...   Apr 25, 2018 - 5:04 AM
- - presure2   good stuff man and decent #s for sure! tq look...   Apr 28, 2018 - 7:14 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (presure2 @ Apr 28, 2018 - 8:1...   Apr 28, 2018 - 1:01 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   Holy ****. That's nice. That retune is definit...   Apr 28, 2018 - 5:59 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (NgoFcukinWay @ Apr 28, 2018 - 6...   Apr 28, 2018 - 6:51 PM
- - Lindsley   Thanks for sharing   Nov 28, 2020 - 7:25 AM


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