ST185 swap fuel/air ratio, Getting black smoke from my exhaust |
ST185 swap fuel/air ratio, Getting black smoke from my exhaust |
Aug 31, 2018 - 8:54 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '18 From NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey 6GC Members,
I hope you all are doing well. My name is Manu and I am new to this site, so I apologize if this has been discussed else where and I couldn't find it. If there is already a thread, please point me to it and i'll look it over. I have a 97 Celica GT with a JDM ST185 swap with JDM ECU. The engine is stock with no modifications thus far. This car was given to me as it sat in a garage for 10 years without ever running. Needless to say, I've gone through a lot of different issues starting with replacing fuel lines, gas tank, fuel pump, cold start injector, etc. to get the motor to crank up again. The car did not have an exhaust since the previous owner didn't purchase one and mainly wanted to get the swap to run. When we got the motor to crank (finally), it was running really rich. So I took it to a muffler shop and had them add a catback exhaust from the downpipe back with turbo muffler and all 2.5" piping. Now the car has black smoke coming from the exhaust when it cranks up, so I am assuming that the engine is still getting too much fuel. So friends of mine recommended that I may need a ECU tune but in order to do that I would have to purchase an expensive standalone ECU and then take it to a certified shop and have them tune it. Before going down that route I wanted to post here to see if anyone has seen similar issues with their swap or this engine in particular? I was also wondering if anyone here knows if the O2 sensor on the downpipe is needed for the ECU to function properly? I ask because when the car was at the muffler shop, I saw the O2 sensor on the downpipe and it was not only rusted but the wire connected to it had been snipped clean - so that O2 sensor in not connected to the wiring harness at all. I also get no check engine light which is odd. I'm thinking that the O2 sensor on the downpipe does need connection to wiring harness and someone may have snipped it to get the car running before since it had no exhaust. I am not an expert by any means and am learning as I go. Please let me know if anyone can provide any advice. Thanks, Manu |
Sep 4, 2018 - 9:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 2, '15 From NY Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Replace the spark plugs. Weak spark could be causing misfires and incomplete burn thus running rich. Setting the correct timing should be high on your list if you have reasons to believe it is incorrect.
Weak spark haunted me for several days once with a no-start on my ST185 motor. All plugs would light outside the cylinder but were too weak to ignite air-fuel mixture causing the engine to run on 1 cylinder (WOT needed to keep it from dying). $10 for new NGK copper plug set and the car starts as new. |
Sep 5, 2018 - 6:15 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '18 From NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Replace the spark plugs. Weak spark could be causing misfires and incomplete burn thus running rich. Setting the correct timing should be high on your list if you have reasons to believe it is incorrect. Weak spark haunted me for several days once with a no-start on my ST185 motor. All plugs would light outside the cylinder but were too weak to ignite air-fuel mixture causing the engine to run on 1 cylinder (WOT needed to keep it from dying). $10 for new NGK copper plug set and the car starts as new. I know my spark plugs are going bad, I just figured that replacing them alone wouldn’t solve the root cause so I waited to do so. I’ll go ahead and replace them. I bought the NGK iridium ones for like $30 a set. Not bad imo. Do you know what gap you set on them when you installed? The only thing that led me to believe that the timing may be off is my research when looking up this issue on various forums. I called the mechanic shop that resurrected this car yesterday and they assured me that my compression and timing was good before I put the exhaust on. |
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