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post Aug 19, 2019 - 12:57 PM
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Ive been really debating as of lately what I want to do with my ST. The 1.8 liter supposedly can put out solid horsepower with only forged rods and basic tuner upgrades on boost, but Ive been thinking about more torque with NA horsepower. An LS swap would be cool as sh*t but lets face it, too much work in a car not made for it. So a fwd V6 from Toyota is my next best bet, heres some of my choices.

3mz-fe w/ e153 - Best candidate with highest HP/TQ, but people say the motors are no good for boost unless you dump 3k to building the block. Any truth to this?
1mz - Numbers are too low, doesnt seem worth it in comparison to the others. Why or why not?
5vz-fe w/ e153 - Supposedly better for boost? Need confirm on it
2gr/1gr? - No idea how that would work.

I want to keep it FWD. Something "simple enough" to swap in and work day to day.
Which would be the easiest to source junkyard parts (axles, housings, whatever), providing the most reliable performance without sacrificing daily drivability? Ive heard a few people say 1mz/3mz are the easiest to fit in the bay while the 5vz is the most plug-and-play with the wiring. Or should I stick with a boosted 4 cylinder, maybe do something crazy like a K swap? This is all hypothetical, the build wont be for a while so keep it light. Im inexperienced compared to some of the old heads on here, but dang would a V6 Celica be fun. Im 100% in love with this platform, so in my opinion anything is worth the effort on it.
 
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post Sep 11, 2019 - 3:16 PM
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I don't think you fully comprehend the daunting task that's the 2GR into a Celica, if you've not read njccmd's thread front to back you need to because you're at half at what it cost him with that number: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=93458

The "easy V6" is the 1MZ, and the only ones I know of working are SnapshotGT's now owned by TimeslideZ and then Smaay's 1MZ/3MZ hybrid, all others got it into the car and "running" but never really drove it. So... yeah... It took a lot for njccmd to get the 2GR to work out, it's all in that thread, and as far as I know his is the ONLY ONE documented. It's easy to talk about doing these swaps, or even think you know what to do from reading things on the internet, but reality is much harsher than that.

Also I wouldn't suggest a MKIII Supra either, it's old and the 7M is limited and has its share of problems. If you want a "Supra on a budget" then get a SC300/400 as they're newer and more viable, and the MKIV Supra was based on them so all the MKIV Supra aftermarket parts works on them. You can find a '98-00 SC400 and do a W58 manual conversion and have a very nice car with 300 horsepower, and it's step-by-step documented and even comes in DIY kits. Or if you don't want the V8 there's always the SC300 that's stupid easy to swap the 2JZ-GE for the 2JZ-GTE, and they came with manuals as an option(albeit a scant 3,800 of them).

You say you need a reliable daily with A/C and don't want to spend too much on the swap, and it seems like most aspects of a custom swap are new to you. Hence my suggestions, you'd be far better off just getting a car that comes from the factory the way you want it. Even if you were ace at custom swaps and got everything at the best prices possible, you'd be hard pressed to break even over a comparable car that came that way from the factory. There's a reason why most of us here have moved on from our Celicas, or those that still have them have them as a project car.


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post Sep 11, 2019 - 3:40 PM
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I really want to know how he got 8k out of it though. Alot of people are saying the engine costs 1500-2k standalone, no tranny or ECU.

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- SaulGoodman   V6 swap Celica   Aug 19, 2019 - 12:57 PM
- - Box   Could do a 1MZ/3MZ hybrid, forum member Smaay can ...   Aug 19, 2019 - 2:21 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (Box @ Aug 19, 2019 - 2:21 PM)...   Aug 20, 2019 - 10:13 PM
- - Box   Mounting is different for the A series engine and ...   Aug 20, 2019 - 11:20 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (Box @ Aug 21, 2019 - 12:20 AM...   Sep 10, 2019 - 9:23 PM
|- - bryanf   QUOTE (SaulGoodman @ Sep 10, 2019 - 10...   Sep 12, 2019 - 9:24 AM
- - TimeslideZ   Coming from a 1MZ, you will need a custom passenge...   Aug 20, 2019 - 11:30 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (TimeslideZ @ Aug 20, 2019 - 11...   Sep 10, 2019 - 12:18 AM
- - cheela   go 2gr. we need more 2gr fans. it's a beast.   Aug 21, 2019 - 8:10 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   swap in a 2mzfe. 2.5 liter v6 and get aftermarket ...   Sep 4, 2019 - 12:18 PM
- - TimeslideZ   QUOTE (SaulGoodman @ Sep 10, 2019 - 12...   Sep 10, 2019 - 12:27 PM
- - Box   The 7A is actually lighter, it's a fair bit li...   Sep 10, 2019 - 7:03 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (Box @ Sep 10, 2019 - 8:03 PM)...   Sep 10, 2019 - 9:20 PM
- - Box   I don't think you fully comprehend the dauntin...   Sep 11, 2019 - 3:16 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (Box @ Sep 11, 2019 - 3:16 PM)...   Sep 11, 2019 - 3:36 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   I really want to know how he got 8k out of it thou...   Sep 11, 2019 - 3:40 PM
- - Tigawoods   what is happening here, there is some guy calling ...   Sep 11, 2019 - 4:38 PM
- - Box   I just did, I gave you the link to the ONLY docume...   Sep 11, 2019 - 8:54 PM
- - Box   Here are all the 1MZ swap info threads I can recal...   Sep 11, 2019 - 9:22 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   Okay so in that case, let this be the cumalitive r...   Sep 11, 2019 - 10:47 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   Oh and uh...sorry bout the men joke. I didnt reali...   Sep 11, 2019 - 11:51 PM
- - bloodMoney   You've got most of it. I HIGHLY suggest readin...   Sep 12, 2019 - 8:06 AM
- - TimeslideZ   For the 2gr you'll want the RAV4 2 port connec...   Sep 12, 2019 - 12:10 PM
- - Box   It's all good, and I look forward to seeing an...   Sep 12, 2019 - 3:21 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   So to quote directly from this article: 2GRFE MR2 ...   Sep 12, 2019 - 11:42 PM
- - njccmd2002   saul, before you commit, to a 2grfe read my post p...   Sep 13, 2019 - 1:22 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 13, 2019 - 2...   Sep 13, 2019 - 8:54 PM
- - bloodMoney   Listen to him. At the end of the day, he's t...   Sep 13, 2019 - 1:59 PM
- - richee3   I definitely encourage the 2GR swap. If I could, I...   Sep 13, 2019 - 2:18 PM
- - njccmd2002   wiring is another issue. Its complicated but doab...   Sep 14, 2019 - 11:41 AM
- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 14, 2019 - 11...   Sep 14, 2019 - 12:25 PM
- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (SaulGoodman @ Sep 14, 2019 - 12...   Sep 15, 2019 - 7:31 AM


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