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post Aug 19, 2019 - 12:57 PM
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Ive been really debating as of lately what I want to do with my ST. The 1.8 liter supposedly can put out solid horsepower with only forged rods and basic tuner upgrades on boost, but Ive been thinking about more torque with NA horsepower. An LS swap would be cool as sh*t but lets face it, too much work in a car not made for it. So a fwd V6 from Toyota is my next best bet, heres some of my choices.

3mz-fe w/ e153 - Best candidate with highest HP/TQ, but people say the motors are no good for boost unless you dump 3k to building the block. Any truth to this?
1mz - Numbers are too low, doesnt seem worth it in comparison to the others. Why or why not?
5vz-fe w/ e153 - Supposedly better for boost? Need confirm on it
2gr/1gr? - No idea how that would work.

I want to keep it FWD. Something "simple enough" to swap in and work day to day.
Which would be the easiest to source junkyard parts (axles, housings, whatever), providing the most reliable performance without sacrificing daily drivability? Ive heard a few people say 1mz/3mz are the easiest to fit in the bay while the 5vz is the most plug-and-play with the wiring. Or should I stick with a boosted 4 cylinder, maybe do something crazy like a K swap? This is all hypothetical, the build wont be for a while so keep it light. Im inexperienced compared to some of the old heads on here, but dang would a V6 Celica be fun. Im 100% in love with this platform, so in my opinion anything is worth the effort on it.
 
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post Sep 11, 2019 - 9:22 PM
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Here are all the 1MZ swap info threads I can recall at the moment:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=53507
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235&hl
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=91482&hl
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82573&hl
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=95155&hl

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post Sep 11, 2019 - 10:47 PM
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Okay so in that case, let this be the cumalitive record of a 2gr into an ST. What Im hearing is for the 2gr Ill need:

2gr-fe out of Camry/ES 350/Avalon etc. Newer 2gr's supposedly have better VVT-I along with a water-to-oil cooler
ECU from ? Ive read a few places that some 2gr models have immobilizers, Ill have to look into it more
E153 transmission from Solara
Custom harness
Axles - Most go GT outers and ST185 inners with spacers for mz (or other way around). What would work?
Drive by wire pedal assembly
Custom engine mounts
Custom headers

What else? Ill update the list more as I research. Ill hop around the forums and scout more info. Maybe the MR2 guys could shed some light

Posts in this topic
- SaulGoodman   V6 swap Celica   Aug 19, 2019 - 12:57 PM
- - Box   Could do a 1MZ/3MZ hybrid, forum member Smaay can ...   Aug 19, 2019 - 2:21 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (Box @ Aug 19, 2019 - 2:21 PM)...   Aug 20, 2019 - 10:13 PM
- - Box   Mounting is different for the A series engine and ...   Aug 20, 2019 - 11:20 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (Box @ Aug 21, 2019 - 12:20 AM...   Sep 10, 2019 - 9:23 PM
|- - bryanf   QUOTE (SaulGoodman @ Sep 10, 2019 - 10...   Sep 12, 2019 - 9:24 AM
- - TimeslideZ   Coming from a 1MZ, you will need a custom passenge...   Aug 20, 2019 - 11:30 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (TimeslideZ @ Aug 20, 2019 - 11...   Sep 10, 2019 - 12:18 AM
- - cheela   go 2gr. we need more 2gr fans. it's a beast.   Aug 21, 2019 - 8:10 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   swap in a 2mzfe. 2.5 liter v6 and get aftermarket ...   Sep 4, 2019 - 12:18 PM
- - TimeslideZ   QUOTE (SaulGoodman @ Sep 10, 2019 - 12...   Sep 10, 2019 - 12:27 PM
- - Box   The 7A is actually lighter, it's a fair bit li...   Sep 10, 2019 - 7:03 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (Box @ Sep 10, 2019 - 8:03 PM)...   Sep 10, 2019 - 9:20 PM
- - Box   I don't think you fully comprehend the dauntin...   Sep 11, 2019 - 3:16 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (Box @ Sep 11, 2019 - 3:16 PM)...   Sep 11, 2019 - 3:36 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   I really want to know how he got 8k out of it thou...   Sep 11, 2019 - 3:40 PM
- - Tigawoods   what is happening here, there is some guy calling ...   Sep 11, 2019 - 4:38 PM
- - Box   I just did, I gave you the link to the ONLY docume...   Sep 11, 2019 - 8:54 PM
- - Box   Here are all the 1MZ swap info threads I can recal...   Sep 11, 2019 - 9:22 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   Okay so in that case, let this be the cumalitive r...   Sep 11, 2019 - 10:47 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   Oh and uh...sorry bout the men joke. I didnt reali...   Sep 11, 2019 - 11:51 PM
- - bloodMoney   You've got most of it. I HIGHLY suggest readin...   Sep 12, 2019 - 8:06 AM
- - TimeslideZ   For the 2gr you'll want the RAV4 2 port connec...   Sep 12, 2019 - 12:10 PM
- - Box   It's all good, and I look forward to seeing an...   Sep 12, 2019 - 3:21 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   So to quote directly from this article: 2GRFE MR2 ...   Sep 12, 2019 - 11:42 PM
- - njccmd2002   saul, before you commit, to a 2grfe read my post p...   Sep 13, 2019 - 1:22 PM
|- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 13, 2019 - 2...   Sep 13, 2019 - 8:54 PM
- - bloodMoney   Listen to him. At the end of the day, he's t...   Sep 13, 2019 - 1:59 PM
- - richee3   I definitely encourage the 2GR swap. If I could, I...   Sep 13, 2019 - 2:18 PM
- - njccmd2002   wiring is another issue. Its complicated but doab...   Sep 14, 2019 - 11:41 AM
- - SaulGoodman   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 14, 2019 - 11...   Sep 14, 2019 - 12:25 PM
- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (SaulGoodman @ Sep 14, 2019 - 12...   Sep 15, 2019 - 7:31 AM


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