Celica gtfour wrc.....collector worthy?, Celica gtfour wrc.....collector worthy? Options

[LimitedGT4]

Hi all,

Got a question, which i know the answer can be oppinionated, but taking the mk4 supra as an example, i never thought it would be sought out as a "collectible" with prices reaching 100k for low mile stock turbo no targa 6psd models. Is there any reason why one shouldnt expect the st205 wrc to be sought out more in a few years with stock models having a higher premium than modified models.

I ask to know if i should consider leaving my potential wrc as stock as possible. Or is this just one of those cool cars that will never be considered collectible and moding the car wont "ruin" the price.


I searched for collect but didnt see anything related

[njccmd2002]

GT4 price is only up here in the States because as Americans weve always wanted one, and importers saw opportunity to make some bucks, initially. Then sellers, saw what these could bring, and prices were even higher.

what changed, from 6 years ago that i was offered a car at 8k, and then that very same care was 15k a year ago.

NOTHING, NOTHING. was not featured in any movie, was not part of any good legacy, It simply became available to be registered in the good old US of A.

When Americans want something, people see an opportunity to make bucks, would prices come down soon?, maybe. Id hate to pay pretty penny for a car that then would be worth its real price 2 years later. I wanted a GT4, but i did the responsible thing, got a cheap supra. not the F&F, lol, that would not be responsible.

[LimitedGT4]

GT4 price is only up here in the States because as Americans weve always wanted one, and importers saw opportunity to make some bucks, initially. Then sellers, saw what these could bring, and prices were even higher.

what changed, from 6 years ago that i was offered a car at 8k, and then that very same care was 15k a year ago.

NOTHING, NOTHING. was not featured in any movie, was not part of any good legacy, It simply became available to be registered in the good old US of A.

When Americans want something, people see an opportunity to make bucks, would prices come down soon?, maybe. Id hate to pay pretty penny for a car that then would be worth its real price 2 years later. I wanted a GT4, but i did the responsible thing, got a cheap supra. not the F&F, lol, that would not be responsible.

I couldnt find a cheap supra as those prices really went crazy so im getring a cheap gt4, which just looks like it might be a wrc....

As far as legacy and heritage people forget it was the official rally car at one point and it did win races despite its downfall so all that is debateable. But also not every car featured in a movie gains notoriety so the more i think of it im not sure the success of the supra or its price should be attributed to a movie. Eclipse, evo, wrx, rx7, jetta, s2k, civic and the list goes on. None really compare in value nor are they now considered collectibles when they are in certain condition.

The question wasnt would prices get ridiculous but rather would and unmodified wrc be considered more valuable than a modified one, as time goes on...


However i get everyones point that everything changes and one can never know and usually a stock car could be worth more compared to its modified counterpart
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[slavie]

I couldnt find a cheap supra as those prices really went crazy so im getring a cheap gt4, which just looks like it might be a wrc....

As far as legacy and heritage people forget it was the official rally car at one point and it did win races despite its downfall so all that is debateable. But also not every car featured in a movie gains notoriety so the more i think of it im not sure the success of the supra or its price should be attributed to a movie. Eclipse, evo, wrx, rx7, jetta, s2k, civic and the list goes on. None really compare in value nor are they now considered collectibles when they are in certain condition.

The question wasnt would prices get ridiculous but rather would and unmodified wrc be considered more valuable than a modified one, as time goes on...


However i get everyones point that everything changes and one can never know and usually a stock car could be worth more compared to its modified counterpart
...

Welp, you were the one to bring comparison to a Supra in your first post. But, the GT4 was really in a class of Evo, WRX STI, and it's values would be more in line with the class. Supra was a competitor to the 3000GT, Nissan GT-R, that sort of thing. Different production numbers, too. If someone wants a Supra and can't find one, they're more likely to settle for a Nissan GT-R rather than a Celica GT4, and that reflects in the prices, ya know.

[LimitedGT4]

I couldnt find a cheap supra as those prices really went crazy so im getring a cheap gt4, which just looks like it might be a wrc....

As far as legacy and heritage people forget it was the official rally car at one point and it did win races despite its downfall so all that is debateable. But also not every car featured in a movie gains notoriety so the more i think of it im not sure the success of the supra or its price should be attributed to a movie. Eclipse, evo, wrx, rx7, jetta, s2k, civic and the list goes on. None really compare in value nor are they now considered collectibles when they are in certain condition.

The question wasnt would prices get ridiculous but rather would and unmodified wrc be considered more valuable than a modified one, as time goes on...


However i get everyones point that everything changes and one can never know and usually a stock car could be worth more compared to its modified counterpart
...

Welp, you were the one to bring comparison to a Supra in your first post. But, the GT4 was really in a class of Evo, WRX STI, and it's values would be more in line with the class. Supra was a competitor to the 3000GT, Nissan GT-R, that sort of thing. Different production numbers, too. If someone wants a Supra and can't find one, they're more likely to settle for a Nissan GT-R rather than a Celica GT4, and that reflects in the prices, ya know.

The comparison was in terms of costing more over time as not many cars have this effect not in class. And production is lower on the wrc which is what made me curious about peoples opinion.

by cheap supra i meant at RHD JZA70 TTR, their prices have gone up lately, this would be the only MK3 I would get, others are not so great in value.

but anyone happy with a real gt4 and does not mind to pay 20K, and youre american, i say go for it.

I sold my mk3 1.5jz single big turbo supra

people seek the wrc because it was limited production number and easier to register?. even though theres no reason why you should get one over the original gt4.

i dont understand why toyota didnt fit the Recaro SR2 confetti (found on the Supra)... to set it apart from the non wrc variant.

Yea those seats as stock seats would have been great, i know they were fitted with recaros as option and if i find some for a good price i might buy them.

people seek the wrc because it was limited production number and easier to register?. even though theres no reason why you should get one over the original gt4.

i dont understand why toyota didnt fit the Recaro SR2 confetti (found on the Supra)... to set it apart from the non wrc variant.

WRC cars have some of the WRC hardware that is disabled. Like, intercooler sprayers, piping for anti-lag injectors (I forget the rest). So it is a little different, though power output should be same. Someone had enabled the anti-lag injectors if I remember right, though it's not as easy as on some other FIA homologation special cars. If I were looking for a collector grade ST205, that extra hardware would sure command a premium.

This is exaclty what am wondering. If left untouched it could fetch a premium over other gt4, and if that premium would be worth leaving it untouched