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post Aug 28, 2003 - 6:48 PM
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Well with super's recent problem it is almost a certain fact the stock GT tranny will crush under the pressure, so what options does everyone have? Could everyone please list in possible transmisions that can take the power? include what car they came from, and possibly their designation code. Maybe even list tranies that will bolt but wont last, I'll make a list in this post and keep it updated, maybe worthy of a sticky in this forum. Also include if the tranny comes with a LSD or if its available for it... Thanks.

Ready for the power (this can take almost anything you throw at it)
1. Camry v6/ Solara Code: E-153
2. MR2 Turbo Code: E-153 (used with 3s-gte) LSD included on 94+

Who Knows (bolts to a 3S-GTE, but it could work and it could fail)
1. Celica GT Code: S-54 (used with 5s-fe)
2. Celica SSII/SSIII Code:?? (used with 3s-ge) LSD available AM (this could be a different version of the s54!?)
3. Curren Code: ?? (used with 3s-ge) (this also is a different version of the s54, rumored to be stronger)

Cannot be Used (bolts to a 3S-GTE but won't work in a FWD Celica)
1. Altezza Code: ?? (used with 3s-ge) for RWD

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post Mar 31, 2004 - 10:07 AM
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QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Aug 29, 2003 - 12:23 AM)
QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 28, 2003 - 5:12 PM)
To elaborate, Celica SS-IIs and SS-IIIs have the 3S-GE, along with some Toyota Currens.

Not any tranny that mounts up to a 3S-GE will work though. For example, an Altezza tranny wouldn't work, because the car is rear wheel drive.

It should work Coomer. My E153 is from an MR2 Turbo (RWD), and it works just fine...

You did bring up a good point...

NOTE: I said *should*, but it would be nice if this could be confirmed. I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Woa woa woa.

I've been lurking here for a long time, but when I saw something so horribly blatantly wrong, I just had to register and correct it.

Think about this for a second.

FF = Transverse mounted engine and tranny, drives the front wheels sitting under the engine

MR = Transverse mounted engine and tranny, drives the rear wheels sitting under the engine

FR = Longitudal mounted engine and tranny, drives rear wheels with a driveshaft running from the front to the back of the car. TOTALLY DIFFERENT TRANSMISSION!!!

An MR tranny is the exact same as a FF tranny, but a FR tranny... no. The FR tranny only has a place for one large driveshaft, the FF and MR have places for two halfshafts.

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BTW:
FF = Front engine front wheels
FR = Front engine rear wheels
MR = Mid engine rear wheels


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Posts in this topic
- Chrobis   3S-GTE Trannies   Aug 28, 2003 - 6:48 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Chrobis @ Aug 28, 2003 - 4:48 PM) Well...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:05 PM
- - Coomer   To elaborate, Celica SS-IIs and SS-IIIs have the 3...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:12 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 28, 2003 - 5:12 PM) To elabora...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:23 PM
- - kuya1284   I believe the following will work as well: A241E ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:24 PM
- - Chrobis   the mr2 tranny need some reworking though right? a...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:24 PM
- - kuya1284   Sorry for the multiple (quick) posts, but I just f...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:30 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Chrobis @ Aug 28, 2003 - 5:24 PM) the ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:33 PM
- - Chrobis   SO the "E" series designates more along ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:39 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE SO the "E" series designates more ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:50 PM
- - Chrobis   does the E-153 come with a LSD? or is it available...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:19 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Chrobis @ Aug 28, 2003 - 6:19 PM) does...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:23 PM
- - Supersprynt   Kuya, the tranny your selling is outta an MR2T cor...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:28 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 28, 2003 - 6:28 PM) ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:34 PM
- - Chrobis   so if you get a different tranny, what needs to be...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:42 PM
- - Supersprynt   What I may want to do is get the E153 but wait on ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 9:06 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Aug 28, 2003 - 4:23 PM) QUOTE (C...   Aug 28, 2003 - 10:01 PM
- - kuya1284   Everything regarding the E153 into a FWD swap is a...   Aug 28, 2003 - 11:51 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Aug 28, 2003 - 5:24 PM) I believ...   Aug 29, 2003 - 1:45 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 28, 2003 - 11:45 PM) QUOTE...   Aug 29, 2003 - 2:24 AM
- - Supersprynt   So I still wouldnt be able to use the entire MR2T ...   Aug 29, 2003 - 7:12 PM
- - scothaniel   The 3SGE Curren and SSII / SSIII Celica's came...   Sep 2, 2003 - 3:10 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (scothaniel @ Sep 2, 2003 - 1:10 AM) The 3SG...   Sep 2, 2003 - 12:50 PM
- - Supersprynt   This topic was started due to the fact that my tra...   Sep 2, 2003 - 12:50 PM
- - celicamanSTX2GT   so could you not go to car-part.com and get the mr...   Mar 9, 2004 - 10:55 PM
- - abatardi   There was a celica 5sfe turbo florida that was doi...   Mar 10, 2004 - 11:50 AM
- - Chrobis   W00t for topic resurection... Mainly what has bee...   Mar 10, 2004 - 12:22 PM
- - Supersprynt   Heres the deal with mine, i didnt blow the tranny ...   Mar 10, 2004 - 1:12 PM
- - Chrobis   nothing.   Mar 15, 2004 - 12:59 AM
- - Drocay   so, is there a automatic tranny that will work(can...   Mar 15, 2004 - 8:20 AM
- - blkGT   so ive read thru this many times, and i am still l...   Mar 15, 2004 - 10:22 PM
- - scothaniel   You can use the E series trans from the MR2 Turbo ...   Mar 15, 2004 - 11:12 PM
- - nik   this might be a stupid question but why cant you u...   Mar 15, 2004 - 11:15 PM
- - blkGT   QUOTE (nik @ Mar 15, 2004 - 9:15 PM) this might be...   Mar 15, 2004 - 11:38 PM
- - nik   i know that just dont hook up the rear drive sha...   Mar 15, 2004 - 11:41 PM
- - Chrobis   the transfer box or whatever would be in the way i...   Mar 16, 2004 - 2:29 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Chrobis @ Mar 16, 2004 - 12:29 AM) the tran...   Mar 16, 2004 - 9:24 PM
- - celicamanSTX2GT   QUOTE (nik @ Mar 15, 2004 - 9:41 PM) i know that ...   Mar 18, 2004 - 8:13 PM
- - nik   i havn't seen an awd tranny thats why i ask th...   Mar 18, 2004 - 9:02 PM
- - 7A-FEces   My head hurts.   Mar 18, 2004 - 9:46 PM
- - turboinduction   nik, From my understanding of AWD and FWD, owning ...   Mar 18, 2004 - 9:47 PM
- - nik   thanks for explaining it that helps   Mar 18, 2004 - 9:56 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Aug 29, 2003 - 12:23 AM) QUOTE (...   Mar 31, 2004 - 10:07 AM
- - abatardi   QUOTE (raven_101 @ Mar 31, 2004 - 8:07 AM) An...   Mar 31, 2004 - 12:23 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (raven_101 @ Mar 31, 2004 - 8:07 AM) QUOTE (...   Mar 31, 2004 - 12:54 PM
- - Chrobis   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Mar 31, 2004 - 9:54 AM) QUOTE (r...   Mar 31, 2004 - 1:13 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE But to add... NO you do not need to change t...   Mar 31, 2004 - 1:18 PM
- - Stipt   QUOTE NEVERSTOP Posted on Mar 31, 2004 - 11:18 AM ...   Apr 1, 2004 - 2:47 AM
- - blkGT   ok ok , so i cant just use a straight 6cyl camry t...   Apr 5, 2004 - 11:36 PM
- - lantz2121   I have heard that you can use the gt4 trany and ma...   Jun 30, 2004 - 3:06 PM
- - Supersprynt   no thats not a very good idea.   Jun 30, 2004 - 4:22 PM
- - jgreening   Read NEVERSTOP's post in this thread. It make...   Jun 30, 2004 - 5:06 PM
- - Belhan   Hi. I have ST202 celica 3S-GE with 129kw. I need ...   May 4, 2006 - 7:29 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Belhan @ May 4, 2006 - 7:29 AM...   May 4, 2006 - 2:17 PM
|- - Belhan   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ May 4, 2006 - 7...   May 4, 2006 - 3:38 PM
- - yungazzdriver   what,.... i am using an awd tranny and it makes pe...   May 4, 2006 - 7:37 AM


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