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post Aug 28, 2003 - 6:48 PM
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Well with super's recent problem it is almost a certain fact the stock GT tranny will crush under the pressure, so what options does everyone have? Could everyone please list in possible transmisions that can take the power? include what car they came from, and possibly their designation code. Maybe even list tranies that will bolt but wont last, I'll make a list in this post and keep it updated, maybe worthy of a sticky in this forum. Also include if the tranny comes with a LSD or if its available for it... Thanks.

Ready for the power (this can take almost anything you throw at it)
1. Camry v6/ Solara Code: E-153
2. MR2 Turbo Code: E-153 (used with 3s-gte) LSD included on 94+

Who Knows (bolts to a 3S-GTE, but it could work and it could fail)
1. Celica GT Code: S-54 (used with 5s-fe)
2. Celica SSII/SSIII Code:?? (used with 3s-ge) LSD available AM (this could be a different version of the s54!?)
3. Curren Code: ?? (used with 3s-ge) (this also is a different version of the s54, rumored to be stronger)

Cannot be Used (bolts to a 3S-GTE but won't work in a FWD Celica)
1. Altezza Code: ?? (used with 3s-ge) for RWD

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post Apr 1, 2004 - 2:47 AM
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NEVERSTOP Posted on Mar 31, 2004 - 11:18 AM
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But to add... NO you do not need to change the bell housing with a E153 ... and you may need to use a different speed sensor (i.e. the one that comes with a clip) ... and the axle setup they discussed is different from mine ... I believe those instructions were intended for a 5th gen swap... axles-wise (maybe) ... but overall... it'll still work...

The bellhousing is basically the outer shell:

bellhousing 



Not dissagreeing with you but I have a JDM 93 3s-ge trans and to use it on a 3sgte I would have to swap the bell housing off a 5sfe trans...

Reason being is that the starter is located in the wrong position. the start exits out towards the exhaust manifold instead of away from it as the 5sfe, 3sgte and later model 3s-ge transmissions. as it sits right now it would hit the lower half of the turbo.

I can post pics of it to further show this 

as for fitting the 3sgte tranny into the US spec 6GC it will fit just fine (somone posted about this on the last page).. the problem with just putting it in there and not hookin up there rear is that the transfer case will just sit and spin while your car goes nowhere

edit: let me explain a little better... the car will move but not very fast and you will lose alot of your power as the transmission will try and send the power from the motor to the point of least resisitance.. the transfercase with nothing hooked up to it.. I tried this just to see what would happen.. I also tried welding in a bar to lock the transfer case and that worked for but only for a short time until that broke, think I got around the block a couple of times before it started to flex to the point where it busted 


Hmmm but from looking at my 3sge tranny, it seems that it might fit perfectly on my st185 engine. I have never put it up against it and tried but.....thats what I'm guessing. NEVERSTOP, call me in the morning and get your ass over here for a few minutes and check it out with me. If it won't fit, sh3t, I'll just sell it and get a MR2 w/LSD.

Posts in this topic
- Chrobis   3S-GTE Trannies   Aug 28, 2003 - 6:48 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Chrobis @ Aug 28, 2003 - 4:48 PM) Well...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:05 PM
- - Coomer   To elaborate, Celica SS-IIs and SS-IIIs have the 3...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:12 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 28, 2003 - 5:12 PM) To elabora...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:23 PM
- - kuya1284   I believe the following will work as well: A241E ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:24 PM
- - Chrobis   the mr2 tranny need some reworking though right? a...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:24 PM
- - kuya1284   Sorry for the multiple (quick) posts, but I just f...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:30 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Chrobis @ Aug 28, 2003 - 5:24 PM) the ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:33 PM
- - Chrobis   SO the "E" series designates more along ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:39 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE SO the "E" series designates more ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:50 PM
- - Chrobis   does the E-153 come with a LSD? or is it available...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:19 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Chrobis @ Aug 28, 2003 - 6:19 PM) does...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:23 PM
- - Supersprynt   Kuya, the tranny your selling is outta an MR2T cor...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:28 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 28, 2003 - 6:28 PM) ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:34 PM
- - Chrobis   so if you get a different tranny, what needs to be...   Aug 28, 2003 - 8:42 PM
- - Supersprynt   What I may want to do is get the E153 but wait on ...   Aug 28, 2003 - 9:06 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Aug 28, 2003 - 4:23 PM) QUOTE (C...   Aug 28, 2003 - 10:01 PM
- - kuya1284   Everything regarding the E153 into a FWD swap is a...   Aug 28, 2003 - 11:51 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Aug 28, 2003 - 5:24 PM) I believ...   Aug 29, 2003 - 1:45 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 28, 2003 - 11:45 PM) QUOTE...   Aug 29, 2003 - 2:24 AM
- - Supersprynt   So I still wouldnt be able to use the entire MR2T ...   Aug 29, 2003 - 7:12 PM
- - scothaniel   The 3SGE Curren and SSII / SSIII Celica's came...   Sep 2, 2003 - 3:10 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (scothaniel @ Sep 2, 2003 - 1:10 AM) The 3SG...   Sep 2, 2003 - 12:50 PM
- - Supersprynt   This topic was started due to the fact that my tra...   Sep 2, 2003 - 12:50 PM
- - celicamanSTX2GT   so could you not go to car-part.com and get the mr...   Mar 9, 2004 - 10:55 PM
- - abatardi   There was a celica 5sfe turbo florida that was doi...   Mar 10, 2004 - 11:50 AM
- - Chrobis   W00t for topic resurection... Mainly what has bee...   Mar 10, 2004 - 12:22 PM
- - Supersprynt   Heres the deal with mine, i didnt blow the tranny ...   Mar 10, 2004 - 1:12 PM
- - Chrobis   nothing.   Mar 15, 2004 - 12:59 AM
- - Drocay   so, is there a automatic tranny that will work(can...   Mar 15, 2004 - 8:20 AM
- - blkGT   so ive read thru this many times, and i am still l...   Mar 15, 2004 - 10:22 PM
- - scothaniel   You can use the E series trans from the MR2 Turbo ...   Mar 15, 2004 - 11:12 PM
- - nik   this might be a stupid question but why cant you u...   Mar 15, 2004 - 11:15 PM
- - blkGT   QUOTE (nik @ Mar 15, 2004 - 9:15 PM) this might be...   Mar 15, 2004 - 11:38 PM
- - nik   i know that just dont hook up the rear drive sha...   Mar 15, 2004 - 11:41 PM
- - Chrobis   the transfer box or whatever would be in the way i...   Mar 16, 2004 - 2:29 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Chrobis @ Mar 16, 2004 - 12:29 AM) the tran...   Mar 16, 2004 - 9:24 PM
- - celicamanSTX2GT   QUOTE (nik @ Mar 15, 2004 - 9:41 PM) i know that ...   Mar 18, 2004 - 8:13 PM
- - nik   i havn't seen an awd tranny thats why i ask th...   Mar 18, 2004 - 9:02 PM
- - 7A-FEces   My head hurts.   Mar 18, 2004 - 9:46 PM
- - turboinduction   nik, From my understanding of AWD and FWD, owning ...   Mar 18, 2004 - 9:47 PM
- - nik   thanks for explaining it that helps   Mar 18, 2004 - 9:56 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Aug 29, 2003 - 12:23 AM) QUOTE (...   Mar 31, 2004 - 10:07 AM
- - abatardi   QUOTE (raven_101 @ Mar 31, 2004 - 8:07 AM) An...   Mar 31, 2004 - 12:23 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (raven_101 @ Mar 31, 2004 - 8:07 AM) QUOTE (...   Mar 31, 2004 - 12:54 PM
- - Chrobis   QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Mar 31, 2004 - 9:54 AM) QUOTE (r...   Mar 31, 2004 - 1:13 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE But to add... NO you do not need to change t...   Mar 31, 2004 - 1:18 PM
- - Stipt   QUOTE NEVERSTOP Posted on Mar 31, 2004 - 11:18 AM ...   Apr 1, 2004 - 2:47 AM
- - blkGT   ok ok , so i cant just use a straight 6cyl camry t...   Apr 5, 2004 - 11:36 PM
- - lantz2121   I have heard that you can use the gt4 trany and ma...   Jun 30, 2004 - 3:06 PM
- - Supersprynt   no thats not a very good idea.   Jun 30, 2004 - 4:22 PM
- - jgreening   Read NEVERSTOP's post in this thread. It make...   Jun 30, 2004 - 5:06 PM
- - Belhan   Hi. I have ST202 celica 3S-GE with 129kw. I need ...   May 4, 2006 - 7:29 AM
|- - BLADDER_MASTER   QUOTE(Belhan @ May 4, 2006 - 7:29 AM...   May 4, 2006 - 2:17 PM
|- - Belhan   QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ May 4, 2006 - 7...   May 4, 2006 - 3:38 PM
- - yungazzdriver   what,.... i am using an awd tranny and it makes pe...   May 4, 2006 - 7:37 AM


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