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post Apr 12, 2004 - 2:21 PM
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Digndoug



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First, has any one done this, or do they just go right to the 3s-gte?? also, gt tranny will bolt right up, but i was told, or read that it wont handle that much power?? its only 177 hp, an 150 trq? is that to the wheel or crank? also what else would i need besides gt engine mounts?? Thanks

also does any one know where else, i could locate, a harness an comp??

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post Apr 13, 2004 - 3:53 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 13, 2004 - 8:36 PM)
Im kinda suprised that not that many people do or have done, or loo into the 3s-ge swap. Yeah its less power, an its a turbo, so you loose the cool solunds, bvut really its a great engine, also more reliable, an should be a lot cheaper then the 3s-gte swap. I mean your cutting out the turbo, intercooler, all the piping, also timers an blv an yeah... makes more sence to me.

It's not necesarily cheaper... in fact... it might be more expensive. As far as the swap goes... it's not very different from the 3SGTE swap. It'll be a bit easier, cause you'll have to source less parts, conisdering you can use the exsiting tranny (if it came with one) and motor mounts on an AT chassi... etc... but the clips are not easy to get. I talked to Jarco last year and they said they *might* be able to find me a front cut from an ST202... but they also said, they've never dealt with that chassi, so it's not certain... and if they could get it, it'll be expensive, around 4,000 or more. I also asked Venus auto about that, and they simply said, they can't get an entire clip either. It's not a high demand cut, so it'll be hard to find a car in Japan, or elsewhere even... but the Venus guys did say they could probably get the longblock and tranny with a partial harness and ECU for a fair price. All in all... it's not a matter of whether it's a good engine or anything... it's supply and demand. Toyota import tuner people usually take the easy way out and just go with a well documented swap, like a 3SGTE, which has more power potential anyways... instead of taking a weaker, non-turboed motor such as the 3SGE. I'd personally go n/a with the 3SGE over the 3SGTE any day in a FWD platform... but that's just me.

As far as the Beams guy on Celica.net... he got his cut from a JDM importer in Canada. I believe it may have been one of the 2 Beams motors that were listed on eBay a while ago. Anyways.... the Beams is a completely different animal in terms of wiring. It's completely different from all of the other versions, and IMO... that guy will probably give up before he even gets close to figuring out all of those wires (repinned ECU connectors, DLI wiring set-up, VVTi wiring set-up, just to name a few custom jobs to be handled)... unless he's really dedicated and smart, or he has a VERY VERY RARE wiring manuals for the Beams 3SGE.


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Posts in this topic
- Digndoug   trying to set up a 3s-ge swap   Apr 12, 2004 - 2:21 PM
- - Doge   try and find a ssII or ssIII clip. You will be ab...   Apr 12, 2004 - 3:11 PM
- - Chrobis   Good luck finding an SS clip... no company I know ...   Apr 12, 2004 - 8:30 PM
- - Digndoug   well, has anyone done this before, or am i going t...   Apr 12, 2004 - 9:15 PM
- - do_0b   theres a 3sge on ebay right now but its from a mr2...   Apr 12, 2004 - 9:19 PM
- - Consynx   there is someone at Celica.net doing either an SS-...   Apr 12, 2004 - 9:36 PM
- - Digndoug   Im kinda suprised that not that many people do or ...   Apr 13, 2004 - 3:36 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 13, 2004 - 8:36 PM) Im kinda...   Apr 13, 2004 - 3:53 PM
- - Digndoug   hey, im still trying to set up this swap, from an ...   Apr 13, 2004 - 7:38 PM
- - celicarocker   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 13, 2004 - 7:38 PM) hey, im ...   Apr 13, 2004 - 8:01 PM
- - Chrobis   I dont think the mounts just bolt in... They would...   Apr 14, 2004 - 1:25 AM
- - latinomasfino   if anyone is interested in the mr2 engine 3rd gen ...   Apr 14, 2004 - 2:43 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 14, 2004 - 12:38 AM) hey, im...   Apr 14, 2004 - 4:15 PM
- - Digndoug   ok, a few other questions, that i just wanna make ...   Apr 14, 2004 - 7:44 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 15, 2004 - 12:44 AM) ok, a f...   Apr 15, 2004 - 2:10 AM
- - neoklis   Well this discussion is really difficult to follow...   Apr 15, 2004 - 6:27 AM
- - Digndoug   hey, for this swap, ok, im guessing my fuel pump ...   Apr 26, 2004 - 9:32 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 27, 2004 - 2:32 AM) hey, for...   Apr 26, 2004 - 10:21 PM
- - macavely   ok if you have a GT wouldn't you just need the...   Apr 26, 2004 - 11:03 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (macavely @ Apr 27, 2004 - 4:03 AM) ok if yo...   Apr 27, 2004 - 12:28 AM
- - sinner96ST   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Apr 26, 2004 - 10:28 PM) QUOTE (...   Apr 27, 2004 - 1:27 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (sinner96ST @ Apr 27, 2004 - 6:27 AM) would...   Apr 27, 2004 - 1:36 AM
- - Digndoug   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Apr 27, 2004 - 6:36 AM) QUOTE (s...   Apr 27, 2004 - 4:53 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 27, 2004 - 9:53 PM) is that ...   Apr 27, 2004 - 6:59 PM
- - Digndoug   well say i have it already...... i guess ...   Apr 27, 2004 - 8:04 PM
- - Digndoug   any one, still need some info, if ya could help???...   Apr 29, 2004 - 5:05 PM
- - Kwanza26   Those parts will be very hard to find... but i bel...   Apr 29, 2004 - 5:13 PM
- - Digndoug   ok, i think im getting more woried and cunfused......   Apr 30, 2004 - 3:22 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 30, 2004 - 8:22 PM) ok, i th...   Apr 30, 2004 - 7:25 PM


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