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post Apr 23, 2004 - 8:58 AM
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Whats the deal with these cars steering? Its like when you go around a corner on a wet road and the wheel is turned to a certain point the car wants to slide. Its also very hard to feel the road with these things, the steering is pretty tight but its hard too and you cant feel when your tires are starting to break loose. When my g/f got her GT she almost crashed it getting off the highway when the roads were wet. She just turned the wheel alittle and the thing started sliding and the rear end broke loose also. You cant feel the road at all with this car, i even have 17's with low pro performance tires and you still cant feel crap. Anyone else find this out about yours? It does handle really well but the steering is alittle funky...what do you think?


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post Apr 24, 2004 - 2:13 PM
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QUOTE (bufferdan @ Apr 24, 2004 - 1:31 PM)
Im getting kuhmo 711's on my 3000GT. Its not my daily driver and i dont drive it in the rain unless i have to so it doesnt matter to me. On my celica i have 215/45/17 Kelly HPT Chargers, Pretty decent tires to say the least.

I thought it was you that mentioned the Kumho. I was just skimming over quickly. As for the Kelly, I haven't used them, but I've always trusted Bridgestone. I've had Sumitomo(don't bother, they suck), Firestone(Firehawks on the 85 RWD Celi, they were decent but slid some in the wet), Kumho(hated them), and a couple other off brands(on the Hyundai) that I didn't care for.

As for sliding the rear, like I said it has to be in the wet or in the dirt for a FF car. You can use the cars weight with a 'Scandanavian Flick'(turn the opposite way and then back quickly). It takes some getting used to, but there are a couple corners that I can get a full four wheel drift in the rain. I've tried in the dry, and can get the rear to come out a hair, but nothing like when it's wet. I used the technique a lot when I was Rallycrossing too, when I started I had to use the ebrake all the time, but eventually learned how to control the car better and could do it without the ebrake without thinking about it.

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- bufferdan   Sliding on wet roads?   Apr 23, 2004 - 8:58 AM
- - Digndoug   I would first tell you an your g/f to learn how to...   Apr 23, 2004 - 9:52 AM
- - subsolo_21   I have the same prob and I have 17's w/ low pr...   Apr 23, 2004 - 9:52 AM
- - bufferdan   First of all..Both I and her have 6G celica's....   Apr 23, 2004 - 10:00 AM
- - bufferdan   QUOTE (subsolo_21 @ Apr 23, 2004 - 2:52 PM) I have...   Apr 23, 2004 - 10:02 AM
- - shid   I have never run into this problem.   Apr 23, 2004 - 11:20 AM
- - turboinduction   well i've driven REAL sports cars many times. ...   Apr 23, 2004 - 11:57 AM
- - bufferdan   She wasnt accelerating into the corner..her foot w...   Apr 23, 2004 - 12:18 PM
- - Junior   QUOTE She has new Michelin Energy MXV4 Plus tires ...   Apr 23, 2004 - 2:21 PM
- - Sirius   Perhaps there is some excessive play in the steeri...   Apr 23, 2004 - 2:42 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   haahaha this happend to me today. screwed um my ca...   Apr 23, 2004 - 2:47 PM
- - bufferdan   QUOTE (Sirius @ Apr 23, 2004 - 7:42 PM) Perhaps th...   Apr 23, 2004 - 3:11 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   I ran my dads old '87 Mazda B2200 off a wet ro...   Apr 23, 2004 - 3:14 PM
- - Junior   QUOTE If you pay 180$ for each 15in tire then...   Apr 23, 2004 - 3:35 PM
- - Sirius   QUOTE (bufferdan @ Apr 23, 2004 - 8:11 PM) MY g/f...   Apr 23, 2004 - 6:14 PM
- - playr158   its called UNDERSTEER, typical of all front wheel ...   Apr 23, 2004 - 6:19 PM
- - ghostdog   I know what he's talking about. I used to have...   Apr 23, 2004 - 6:38 PM
- - Digndoug   ok, guys its called learning to drive your car... ...   Apr 23, 2004 - 7:41 PM
- - bufferdan   QUOTE (Sirius @ Apr 23, 2004 - 11:14 PM) QUOTE (bu...   Apr 23, 2004 - 7:59 PM
- - Digndoug   QUOTE (bufferdan @ Apr 24, 2004 - 12:59 AM) Anywa...   Apr 23, 2004 - 8:01 PM
- - bufferdan   Understeer...I guess thats what you can call it......   Apr 23, 2004 - 8:08 PM
- - JDM7afe   know your cars limits, i know all 4 tires can slid...   Apr 23, 2004 - 8:12 PM
- - bufferdan   QUOTE (JDM7afe @ Apr 24, 2004 - 1:12 AM) know your...   Apr 23, 2004 - 8:20 PM
- - bufferdan   BTW...the tires on my celica were about 130$ ...   Apr 23, 2004 - 8:23 PM
- - Clipsetuner   Yeah Just sayin I had the Same Problem expect I le...   Apr 23, 2004 - 8:28 PM
- - JDM7afe   QUOTE They are nice tires i have to say but not an...   Apr 23, 2004 - 8:41 PM
- - bufferdan   QUOTE (JDM7afe @ Apr 24, 2004 - 1:41 AM) QUOTE The...   Apr 23, 2004 - 11:05 PM
- - Kwanza26   Heh... honestly now guys... you need to re-think y...   Apr 24, 2004 - 12:58 AM
- - bufferdan   i drive this car slow...the freaking thing bearly ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 1:49 AM
- - aaronc222   I don't know what kind of Kumho's you have...   Apr 24, 2004 - 11:26 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 4:26 PM) As far ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 11:34 AM
- - 97GTinKC   The Michelin Pilots that came on my 97GT were terr...   Apr 24, 2004 - 12:26 PM
- - bufferdan   QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 4:26 PM) I don...   Apr 24, 2004 - 12:31 PM
- - aaronc222   QUOTE (bufferdan @ Apr 24, 2004 - 1:31 PM) Im gett...   Apr 24, 2004 - 2:13 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 7:13 PM) As for ...   Apr 24, 2004 - 3:16 PM
- - KAMiX   Kwanza you are wrong mate, you can get them out wi...   Apr 24, 2004 - 9:19 PM
- - macavely   New Wet/Dry Tires   Apr 24, 2004 - 10:13 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (KAMiX @ Apr 25, 2004 - 2:19 AM) Kwanza...   Apr 24, 2004 - 11:23 PM
- - acidbyte7   thread was too long to read through but i don...   Apr 24, 2004 - 11:58 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (KAMiX @ Apr 25, 2004 - 2:19 AM) Bufferdan I...   Apr 25, 2004 - 12:21 AM
- - Sirius   QUOTE (bufferdan @ Apr 24, 2004 - 12:59 AM) 180...   Apr 25, 2004 - 4:35 AM


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