 Sliding on wet roads? |
 Apr 23, 2004 - 8:58 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%)  |
Whats the deal with these cars steering? Its like when you go around a corner on a wet road and the wheel is turned to a certain point the car wants to slide. Its also very hard to feel the road with these things, the steering is pretty tight but its hard too and you cant feel when your tires are starting to break loose. When my g/f got her GT she almost crashed it getting off the highway when the roads were wet. She just turned the wheel alittle and the thing started sliding and the rear end broke loose also. You cant feel the road at all with this car, i even have 17's with low pro performance tires and you still cant feel crap. Anyone else find this out about yours? It does handle really well but the steering is alittle funky...what do you think?
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Apr 24, 2004 - 11:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You guys are confusing understeer with rear traction loss. Like I said in my before post... Even with weight shift... you can't get the rear wheels to break traction opposite of the front wheels (without direct input). The only time the rear breaks traction, and slides, is when the front does also (under normal driving). That's understeer. That's just how the car works. Say for example, if you're coming out of a corner with understeer... and then feint, the rear will kick in response to the weight-shift and steering correction... but it'll correct to follow the front. It's not even what one would consider a slide... If you count the understeer as the slide... then yes... that's a slide... but the only real way to lose traction in the rear (while maintaining fron traction and control) on a FF car is to pull the e-brake, or run mismatched and thrash the hell out of the rear tires. I think many of you need to go out to the track and try it before you imagine it. It happens very differently from what you all are thinking. Also... this has nothing to do with drifting. It's just basic physics on why a FF car can't lose rear traction without direct input. That's why traysliding was invented... This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Apr 24, 2004 - 11:24 PM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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bufferdan Sliding on wet roads? Apr 23, 2004 - 8:58 AM
Digndoug I would first tell you an your g/f to learn how to... Apr 23, 2004 - 9:52 AM subsolo_21 I have the same prob and I have 17's w/ low pr... Apr 23, 2004 - 9:52 AM bufferdan First of all..Both I and her have 6G celica's.... Apr 23, 2004 - 10:00 AM bufferdan QUOTE (subsolo_21 @ Apr 23, 2004 - 2:52 PM) I have... Apr 23, 2004 - 10:02 AM shid I have never run into this problem. Apr 23, 2004 - 11:20 AM turboinduction well i've driven REAL sports cars many times. ... Apr 23, 2004 - 11:57 AM bufferdan She wasnt accelerating into the corner..her foot w... Apr 23, 2004 - 12:18 PM Junior QUOTE She has new Michelin Energy MXV4 Plus tires ... Apr 23, 2004 - 2:21 PM Sirius Perhaps there is some excessive play in the steeri... Apr 23, 2004 - 2:42 PM x_itchy_b_x haahaha this happend to me today. screwed um my ca... Apr 23, 2004 - 2:47 PM bufferdan QUOTE (Sirius @ Apr 23, 2004 - 7:42 PM) Perhaps th... Apr 23, 2004 - 3:11 PM Silver94CelicaOwner I ran my dads old '87 Mazda B2200 off a wet ro... Apr 23, 2004 - 3:14 PM Junior QUOTE If you pay 180$ for each 15in tire then... Apr 23, 2004 - 3:35 PM Sirius QUOTE (bufferdan @ Apr 23, 2004 - 8:11 PM) MY g/f... Apr 23, 2004 - 6:14 PM playr158 its called UNDERSTEER, typical of all front wheel ... Apr 23, 2004 - 6:19 PM ghostdog I know what he's talking about. I used to have... Apr 23, 2004 - 6:38 PM Digndoug ok, guys its called learning to drive your car... ... Apr 23, 2004 - 7:41 PM bufferdan QUOTE (Sirius @ Apr 23, 2004 - 11:14 PM) QUOTE (bu... Apr 23, 2004 - 7:59 PM Digndoug QUOTE (bufferdan @ Apr 24, 2004 - 12:59 AM)
Anywa... Apr 23, 2004 - 8:01 PM bufferdan Understeer...I guess thats what you can call it...... Apr 23, 2004 - 8:08 PM JDM7afe know your cars limits, i know all 4 tires can slid... Apr 23, 2004 - 8:12 PM bufferdan QUOTE (JDM7afe @ Apr 24, 2004 - 1:12 AM) know your... Apr 23, 2004 - 8:20 PM bufferdan BTW...the tires on my celica were about 130$ ... Apr 23, 2004 - 8:23 PM Clipsetuner Yeah Just sayin I had the Same Problem expect I le... Apr 23, 2004 - 8:28 PM JDM7afe QUOTE They are nice tires i have to say but not an... Apr 23, 2004 - 8:41 PM bufferdan QUOTE (JDM7afe @ Apr 24, 2004 - 1:41 AM) QUOTE The... Apr 23, 2004 - 11:05 PM Kwanza26 Heh... honestly now guys... you need to re-think y... Apr 24, 2004 - 12:58 AM bufferdan i drive this car slow...the freaking thing bearly ... Apr 24, 2004 - 1:49 AM aaronc222 I don't know what kind of Kumho's you have... Apr 24, 2004 - 11:26 AM Kwanza26 QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 4:26 PM) As far ... Apr 24, 2004 - 11:34 AM 97GTinKC The Michelin Pilots that came on my 97GT were terr... Apr 24, 2004 - 12:26 PM bufferdan QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 4:26 PM) I don... Apr 24, 2004 - 12:31 PM aaronc222 QUOTE (bufferdan @ Apr 24, 2004 - 1:31 PM) Im gett... Apr 24, 2004 - 2:13 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE (aaronc222 @ Apr 24, 2004 - 7:13 PM) As for ... Apr 24, 2004 - 3:16 PM KAMiX Kwanza you are wrong mate, you can get them out wi... Apr 24, 2004 - 9:19 PM macavely New Wet/Dry Tires Apr 24, 2004 - 10:13 PM acidbyte7 thread was too long to read through but i don... Apr 24, 2004 - 11:58 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE (KAMiX @ Apr 25, 2004 - 2:19 AM) Bufferdan I... Apr 25, 2004 - 12:21 AM
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