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post May 18, 2004 - 5:05 PM
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How much hp to you actually gain from turboing your 7afe and boosting 7psi? whats the hp per psi? with stock 9.5cr and maybe 9cr??? anyone?

I really wannted to do nos, but i figure, ill look in to turbo too. HP Gain for the money is great for nos though.
 
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post May 19, 2004 - 1:24 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 19, 2004 - 4:15 AM)
QUOTE (Jason @ May 18, 2004 - 8:48 PM)
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150 WHEEL HP? Thats like 180hp, i think ur getting Wheel and crank mixed up. 172 at the crank is feasible with the necessary components.

The 3sgte is is a bigger engine and 160 to the wheels is around 190 at the crank if not more. The 3s produces 200 at the crank.


No. 150wHP is more like 165-170 crank buddy. If you take a car to a dyno, it gives you "to the wheel" statistics, and i'm guessing the precise number 172 is a figure from a Dyno. A Celica GTS is rated 180 at the crank, stock it puts out 162wHP, just so you can see how close those actually are.

I've never seen any car lose ONLY 18hp to the wheels, buddy.
Thats VERY good...and very unlikely.

Drivetrain powerloss usually is between 15% - 25%, depending on the actual transmission, and whether or not its auto. The automatic trannys generally range from 20 - 25%. 180 at the crank and 162 to the wheels is roughly 9%.

i actually read somewhere that the new gts only has like an 11% drivetrain loss.

when the torque converter on an auto tranny is locked, it is more efficient than a manual tranny, but locking up isnt a constant thing.

zipstrips made 172 whp and more torwque with a t3/t4 hybrid, fmic, NX ntercooler sprayer, greddy exhaust, EGR removed and Cat gutted at around 9-10psi, and he was even having problems on the dyno that day.

my car is an auto and with my setup(which i sold to forkee) i was running 7.5psi and fuel cutting becuase i didnt have enough check valves with a DSM side mount intercooler and ABS piping (forkee is fmic with metal piping)

under those conditions from 50mph to 110mph, i caught up to an RSX type S with exhaust, from what i could see, that cut me off and passed him with good speed.

once i got the kinks worked out i ran 8psi, and it hauled ass. i still had the factory cat and mid pipe then a 2.5 inch catback.

if i actually had a 2.5 inch midpipe and atleast a high flow cat, my spool time would have been cut by a good amount and high end power would have seen a good increase.

i would say i had a little more crank hp than a celica GTS, but i had a much much better powerband and boat loads more torque. GTS's were no problem for me as with integra GSR's, all model preludes and RSX S's. i had them on the launch, and i had them through shifts, and the only time my auto tranny held me back was when it had to downshift if i was going from a roll(not even half a second's delay)

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- powerkor   actually hp gain from turbo on 7afe   May 18, 2004 - 5:05 PM
- - slipgun   I think someone with 7-8 lbs boost was doing 172 w...   May 18, 2004 - 5:08 PM
- - Supersprynt   172 is an amazing increase...seems a bit high. but...   May 18, 2004 - 5:15 PM
- - slipgun   I know I saw a dyno with 172 as its output, im pre...   May 18, 2004 - 5:24 PM
- - Jason   7AFE + 7PSI = 155-160wHP i'd imagine. 172wHP ...   May 18, 2004 - 5:40 PM
- - slipgun   it was on the board, a dyno of a 7afe turbo it was...   May 18, 2004 - 6:03 PM
- - Einhander   zipstrips is his name, the car was a 5spd and i ...   May 18, 2004 - 6:11 PM
- - slipgun   Thank god im not the only one who remembered this...   May 18, 2004 - 6:14 PM
- - Einhander   no problem, being a troll sometimes helps, i am on...   May 18, 2004 - 6:22 PM
- - slipgun   me too thats how I saw it, but im horrible with na...   May 18, 2004 - 6:34 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (Jason @ May 18, 2004 - 6:40 PM) 7AFE +...   May 18, 2004 - 6:34 PM
- - slipgun   it was 172 AT THE WHEELS I know the difference, it...   May 18, 2004 - 6:35 PM
- - Supersprynt   What else was done to the motor? Slapping a turbo ...   May 18, 2004 - 6:37 PM
- - slipgun   lets get zipstrips in, I dint build his car....   May 18, 2004 - 6:38 PM
- - forkee   believe it people! lol im only running 4 psi ...   May 18, 2004 - 7:03 PM
- - slipgun   Forkee how much was your setup and how long have y...   May 18, 2004 - 7:09 PM
- - Drocay   QUOTE okay let me fix this, it wasn't zips car...   May 18, 2004 - 7:10 PM
- - zipstrips   see my profile its real, also sold too on to...   May 18, 2004 - 7:27 PM
- - slipgun   How much did it go for... I woulda died for that s...   May 18, 2004 - 7:34 PM
- - nik   it went for 1100 not complete to me   May 18, 2004 - 7:43 PM
- - Jason   QUOTE 150 WHEEL HP? Thats like 180hp, i think ur g...   May 18, 2004 - 7:48 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (zipstrips @ May 18, 2004 - 8:27 PM) see my ...   May 18, 2004 - 7:50 PM
- - hyp3rk1d   Ahh, iam on my way to being an St-T and I can not ...   May 18, 2004 - 8:28 PM
- - Einhander   I've been a 7afte'er once, and as soon as ...   May 18, 2004 - 8:57 PM
- - JDM7afe   wow, it would be nice to have a little more power....   May 18, 2004 - 9:57 PM
- - FallenHero   I saw a rolla 7a with 8 or 9 PSI and an underdrive...   May 18, 2004 - 10:38 PM
- - celicarocker   QUOTE (JDM7afe @ May 18, 2004 - 10:57 PM) wow, it ...   May 18, 2004 - 10:48 PM
- - powerkor   Im gonna get forged pistons, rings, and rods and d...   May 18, 2004 - 11:40 PM
- - hyp3rk1d   QUOTE (Einhander @ May 19, 2004 - 1:57 AM)I...   May 19, 2004 - 6:22 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (Jason @ May 18, 2004 - 8:48 PM) QUOTE ...   May 19, 2004 - 7:15 AM
- - 94silverst   forkee and zipstrips, What all did you use for th...   May 19, 2004 - 11:27 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 19, 2004 - 4:15 AM) ...   May 19, 2004 - 1:24 PM
- - nik   hey 97sccelica i bought zipstrips turbo set-up. I ...   May 19, 2004 - 1:36 PM
- - hyp3rk1d   also 97, what size piping did you have in the engi...   May 19, 2004 - 2:16 PM
- - ArizonaRed   My turbo setup is lacking parts like a wastegate a...   May 19, 2004 - 5:17 PM
- - hyp3rk1d   ok.. You def need all those things your missing......   May 19, 2004 - 5:27 PM
- - Hanyo   QUOTE (ArizonaRed @ May 19, 2004 - 10:17 PM) My tu...   May 19, 2004 - 5:34 PM
- - ArizonaRed   no it will just use the turbo at high speeds when ...   May 19, 2004 - 5:39 PM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (Hanyo @ May 19, 2004 - 3:34 PM) QUOTE (Ariz...   May 19, 2004 - 9:13 PM
- - ArizonaRed   yes yes i would love to see video. or maybe a deta...   May 19, 2004 - 11:06 PM
- - FallenHero   hey zipstrips, now will you tell me the part numbe...   May 19, 2004 - 11:20 PM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (FallenHero @ May 19, 2004 - 9:20 PM) hey zi...   May 20, 2004 - 12:21 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE hey 97sccelica i bought zipstrips turbo set-...   May 20, 2004 - 1:28 AM
- - hyp3rk1d   Zip, Id love to see that video also... hyp3rk1d17@...   May 20, 2004 - 6:20 AM
- - zipstrips   i sold the front mount piping.. i only used 9 pipe...   May 20, 2004 - 6:25 AM
- - nik   i haven't received any videos yet???   May 20, 2004 - 8:59 AM
- - zebt66   Check the new dodge neon SRT4 it is 260 hp.... and...   May 20, 2004 - 9:33 AM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (nik @ May 20, 2004 - 6:59 AM) i haven't...   May 20, 2004 - 10:31 AM
- - nik   zip you have mail   May 20, 2004 - 10:46 AM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (nik @ May 20, 2004 - 8:46 AM) zip you have ...   May 20, 2004 - 10:57 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (zebt66 @ May 20, 2004 - 6:33 AM) Check the ...   May 20, 2004 - 10:59 AM
- - nik   sounds good im at work also so i'll just look ...   May 20, 2004 - 10:59 AM
- - nik   QUOTE (97sccelica @ May 20, 2004 - 8:59 AM) QUOTE ...   May 20, 2004 - 11:02 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (nik @ May 20, 2004 - 8:02 AM) QUOTE (97scce...   May 20, 2004 - 8:11 PM
- - 95STHATCH   here's the pics zipstrips was talking about.   May 20, 2004 - 9:36 PM
- - 95STHATCH   and some more....   May 20, 2004 - 9:38 PM
- - 95STHATCH   Here are the videos that zipstrips was talking abo...   May 20, 2004 - 9:44 PM
- - Drocay   those were great man, your setup was very impressi...   May 21, 2004 - 12:27 AM
- - lagos   and then it blew up!   May 21, 2004 - 2:24 PM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (lagos @ May 21, 2004 - 12:24 PM) and then i...   May 21, 2004 - 3:54 PM
- - SpedToe169   I just happen to have some GZE pistons sitting in ...   May 21, 2004 - 8:02 PM
- - FallenHero   I wonder if that is for a set or each... I need a...   May 21, 2004 - 10:11 PM
- - SpedToe169   The part #? Thats each.   May 21, 2004 - 10:52 PM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (SpedToe169 @ May 21, 2004 - 6:02 PM) I...   May 22, 2004 - 5:02 PM
- - FallenHero   I thought toyota only made .5 over pistons? they ...   May 22, 2004 - 11:38 PM
- - BLINKYxMUNKEY   edit.   May 25, 2004 - 8:38 AM
- - nik   hey zip this whta i have so far http://www.cardom...   May 27, 2004 - 7:56 PM
- - nik   bump   Jun 15, 2004 - 11:53 AM


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