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post Aug 4, 2004 - 8:51 PM
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I have a 1994 Celica ST coup hardtop that I am converting to a quarter mile monster. Now I need to find the right engine so I can get it done ASAP. I'm planning to replace the mechanics with high preformance racing products. With so many options I need to see other suggestions. The new 2.4 in the Camry and the Scion tC looks promising but I haven't heard of any fixed up 2.4's. Any help would be much appreceated.

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post Aug 4, 2004 - 11:57 PM
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Hehehe... it's kinda funny hearing the words "1/4 mile monster"..."celica ST"..."10 seconds"..."comfortable" and "ASAP" all reffering to the same thing. It's kind of an oxymoron, depending on how you string those phrases together...

Anyway... No... the 2AZFE (camry 2.4 liter) will not see the 10 second barrier without serious serious mods and BOOST... lots and lots of BOOST. I mean... 40+ psi and 500+ whp. That's not for the ametuer builder... The 4AGZE will not see that, a 4AGTE *might* see that, but will starve for torque, and the 3SGTE can see that, but has no real advantage over the 2AZFE aside from wearing a GE head and being easier to swap into a T20 chassi (6th gen celica). Why do I say the 3SGTE has no real advantage over the 2AZFE? (I know you 3SGTE worshippers are wondering)... well, basically because even the 3SGTE will require as significant of modifications as the 2AZFE to be able to make and sustain 500+ whp. The 500+ whp figure is only an estimate of what it'll take to power a FF car to the 10 second barrier... why so much? Because the faster you go, the power required to accelerate that fast grows exponentially. It might actually need more than 500 whp to break 10's... assuming it's a unibody...

As for my personal favorite... the legendary Toyota HEMI... the 3TC. Just imagine, the 3T block bored and stroked to 2.2 liters (from a 1.6) fully built top and bottom, sucking down 40 pounds of boost with a 100 shot of nitrious over it... with awesome chassi candidates as the AE86 Corolla (at around 2100 pounds), KP61 Starlet (at ~1800 pounds), and the Mango Corollas (72-83) (all around or under 2200 pounds). These are all easy builds, cheap, and FR... front engine REAR WHEEL DRIVE. Great for drag.

Top close... I think you shouldn't take Fast and Furious too seriously... cause it just ain't gonna happen ASAP... or cheap for that matter. As for comfort... drag cars are not made to be comfortable. If you're building a comfortable drag car... you're doing it all WRONG. And finally, a FWD car shouldn't be your frist attempt at a true "1/4 monster". FWD cars just don't have good enough traction, and when you start getting really fast (low 14's high 13's) traction sucks! Anyways... better to build a nice well-rounded car that is fun... than be fooled into thinking you (alone) can build a 10 second FWD drag car... and that's with the most humble honesty...


Amen Brother. Read it and believe it. Not only is he right, he turned a 500% profit on a strut tower bar!


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

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- Dr-Dansksta   Whats the best engine for a quartermile?   Aug 4, 2004 - 8:51 PM
- - fastgt   youre gonna need alot of money to get to 10 some g...   Aug 4, 2004 - 9:17 PM
- - Dr-Dansksta   I've done some research and the 3S-GTE looks t...   Aug 4, 2004 - 9:42 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   most likely the 3sgte, its made for our cars, well...   Aug 4, 2004 - 9:44 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   some of the 3sgtes are 260hp stock, that 2.4 engin...   Aug 4, 2004 - 9:45 PM
- - fastgt   talk to neverstop about the awd conversion as far ...   Aug 4, 2004 - 9:47 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   dr-danskata if u really want a 10 second car, go s...   Aug 4, 2004 - 9:48 PM
- - Dr-Dansksta   The HKS Celica The Celica which most likely owns...   Aug 4, 2004 - 9:53 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   that makes no sense, it says its the first fwd car...   Aug 4, 2004 - 10:01 PM
- - Dr-Dansksta   Basically, I want new extra-high preformance racin...   Aug 4, 2004 - 10:20 PM
- - fastgt   if you want under 10 secs....you cant really keep ...   Aug 4, 2004 - 10:29 PM
- - Kwanza26   Hehehe... it's kinda funny hearing the words ...   Aug 4, 2004 - 11:35 PM
- - jgreening   QUOTE Hehehe... it's kinda funny hearing the w...   Aug 4, 2004 - 11:57 PM
- - 97sccelica   best engine for a 1/4 mile im gonna have to say a...   Aug 5, 2004 - 2:03 AM
- - Fox-N-It2   Kwanza pretty much summed it up. Hell 10sec...   Aug 5, 2004 - 2:09 AM
- - Akimbo   Quarter-mile monster? ST? FWD? None of that goes t...   Aug 5, 2004 - 2:14 AM
- - Dr-Dansksta   Thanks for the info, i know FWD is the worst canid...   Aug 5, 2004 - 2:32 PM
- - Dr-Dansksta   KP61 Starlet, is that a JDM Toyota?   Aug 5, 2004 - 2:57 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Dr-Dansksta @ Aug 5, 2004 - 7:57 PM) KP61 S...   Aug 5, 2004 - 3:29 PM
- - SlowCelica94   Get a muscel car. F-body I'm thinking of sell...   Aug 5, 2004 - 6:47 PM
- - shid   QUOTE (fastgt @ Aug 5, 2004 - 2:47 AM) talk to nev...   Aug 5, 2004 - 7:02 PM
- - Fox-N-It2   QUOTE (SlowCelica94 @ Aug 5, 2004 - 11:47 PM) Get ...   Aug 6, 2004 - 3:06 AM
- - SlowCelica94   lol. So true. Those F-body don't like to turn....   Aug 6, 2004 - 11:45 AM
- - o8poa8o   i use to want a F-Body Camaro Z28 w/ the LT1 but i...   Aug 9, 2004 - 9:36 AM


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