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post Aug 15, 2004 - 5:06 PM
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Ok guys I am saving for my swap but I have no I dea what I need. Can you guys that have the swap done give me a list of things needed also if there are any info websites??? From reading posts from the past I have an idea of how much money I need but I dont know what I need to complete otr where to get such items.

Also one question about the ECU, is the stock ECU needed or is there an aftermarket one???

Thanks for help,

William

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post Aug 18, 2004 - 1:51 AM
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QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 18, 2004 - 6:35 AM)
Like what? Turbo? biggrin.gif

The silvertop's internals are heavier and stronger for turbo applications, and the AFM doesn't become an issue if you go standalone, and the .5 lower compression would make it slightly easier to boost a silvertop reliably on stock internals. wink.gif

You know... I've never been much of a turbo guy... so no... ;]

Actually... i'd go all out n/a. I have mentioned before, that the silvertop has little difference from the blacktop and can be built just as nicely... but I personally would rather just start with the better of the two and go from there (lighter better internals, better combustion chamber design, slightly more efficeint head design, better ITB design, and VVT-i). I love pure all-motor builds... and care little for boost. Boost is the easy way out I always say... Anyways... even if the costs outweigh the advatages the blacktop has over the silver... the time and money involved in making the silver equal to the black is the equalizer... Tuning tuning tuning... =D

It mostly boils down to (for me at least)... the actual performance. The silvertops are known for being slightly overrated... while the blacktops are not as bad. I've driven both a silvertop and blacktop powered AE86s... and the response factor is very noticeable... the silvertop responds similar to the 4AGE smallport redtop (better high-end pickup than the smallport, but delivers in the same way) while the blacktop feels more like the TVIS bigports, which deliver a broader torque band... because of the implemented VVT-i... only they also pick-up in the high-end unlike the bigports.

Ok... ok... I admit... I like the black valve cover... ;]

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Posts in this topic
- celimanST   Need 4A swap help   Aug 15, 2004 - 5:06 PM
- - Sev408   um well i think only 1 person has done the swap an...   Aug 15, 2004 - 6:53 PM
- - Coomer   Yeah, what swap are you wanting to do?   Aug 15, 2004 - 7:44 PM
- - FAQdaWorld   werd , also asking John (Mynezeyes) will be a good...   Aug 16, 2004 - 4:22 PM
- - celimanST   I am planing on the 4age silver top the balck tops...   Aug 17, 2004 - 6:20 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (celimanST @ Aug 17, 2004 - 4:20 PM) I am pl...   Aug 17, 2004 - 9:05 PM
- - 95STHATCH   Can the water pump and alt,stuff like that,be used...   Aug 17, 2004 - 10:01 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (95STHATCH @ Aug 18, 2004 - 3:01 AM) Can the...   Aug 17, 2004 - 10:05 PM
- - celimanST   Thanks for the help Coomer. I will post later wit...   Aug 17, 2004 - 10:57 PM
- - rlan214   QUOTE (celimanST @ Aug 17, 2004 - 4:20 PM) I am pl...   Aug 18, 2004 - 12:03 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (rlan214 @ Aug 18, 2004 - 5:03 AM) how much ...   Aug 18, 2004 - 12:15 AM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Aug 17, 2004 - 10:15 PM) QUOTE (...   Aug 18, 2004 - 12:48 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 18, 2004 - 5:48 AM) Why do you...   Aug 18, 2004 - 1:25 AM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Aug 17, 2004 - 11:25 PM) QUOTE (...   Aug 18, 2004 - 1:35 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 18, 2004 - 6:35 AM) Like ...   Aug 18, 2004 - 1:51 AM
- - Coomer   OK, it makes sense to me now. The AE111 4A-GE do...   Aug 18, 2004 - 10:07 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 18, 2004 - 3:07 PM) OK, it mak...   Aug 18, 2004 - 12:48 PM
- - Sev408   so would i be better off buying a silver top 4age ...   Aug 18, 2004 - 9:16 PM
- - celimanST   Would that black top swap be the same as the silve...   Aug 20, 2004 - 10:26 PM


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