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post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:08 AM
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I have a friend who was just givin an stx coupe. He says that it does come with a different stroke and cams. I didn't belive him, so , he took me for a ride. He only has an intake and that thing pulls way harder than my st. For even more testing, I raced him. To my surprise he won by a 3/4 to 1 carlength. I have full exhaust with no cat and a resonator. He also said it has different gearing, but I did'nt pay attention to where he shifted in my ride along. He also said it comes with stiffer suspension and that it came from the factory with an unclearcoated front bumper. Also his is like 190 something of like 250. So, uh, I'm really confused.
 
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post Aug 23, 2004 - 7:38 PM
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QUOTE (jmoneydtb @ Aug 23, 2004 - 6:23 PM)
"quote from kwanza26" If it makes you feel any better... my ST, as it is currently (detuned... going back to stock)... I'll almost gurantee you I'll put at least a car on your friend...

i seriously doubt that from watching this stx perform this weekend...unless youve got i-h-e, ignition and cams...and you say your going back to stock so...you apparently dont have these things at least anymore...

and if any one wants to talk about how a 3s-gte motor is better than a 2jz in a supra...yousa damn fool...you show me a 1450whp 3s-gte and then ill believe that its a better motor then...the reason they swap a 3s-gte into supras for racing is because in jgtc the make a good amount of power and are a great motor, but they are good few hundred pounds lighter than a 2jz...thats why they swap...also $15g in a mkiv supra will get you into low 10's as long as you know what you are doing. the supra that i have helped build up ran a 12.0 quarter w/ only $4500 invested in the motor on stock turbos, ic, fuel sys, suspension and walmart tires! should be running low to mid 11's on low boost now.

now im not trying to start **** and im sorry if it sounds that way...i just know what ive seen and im just trying to explain the evidence.

Hehe...

BTW: Who makes cams for the 7AFE? Unless it's custom... NOBODY DOES. Curious why you guys keep bringing it up. Just so you know, toyota FE heads don't respond well to any bolt-on modifications... dyno proven. You'll get maybe 5-10 hp TOTAL... I've built 2 Celica ST's to date so I've been around the engine with a highly built motor and a mildly tuned motor, and I just don't see it as a big performance engine with the stock head in n/a trim. Narrow angle design, limited cam timing, no great flow or induction, weak valvetrain, PURE ECONO motor... explain to me how you could possibly classify this car... or to be more exact, this motor, to be anything related to performance? Do that, and tell me your exact mods, which I'll tell you now, I HAVE done before (cause I've done just about everything possible to the 7AFE n/a, with exception to cams), and maybe someone here will believe you. Sounds more like you're just a bunch of high-school kids all into the current fad racing scene, as you list ignition wires and such as performance parts... rolleyes.gif

With that said... your friend cannot beat me... the only thing I lack, is my S-AFC... which limits me back to my stock econo fuel maps. Even still... my car will run low 16's without hesitation... and that's saying something with regard to these car's.

As for engines... who brought up the 2JZ? It's like comparing apples and oranges... when comparing the 2JZGTE to the 3SGTE. FYI... the 2JZ is a renowned DRAG motor... while the 3SGTE is a TRACK motor. Know your differences before you start going off on numbers. I'll tell you now... a 1200 whp Supra ain't gonna beat a 500 whp MR-2 or Celica on the track... a little something called traction.

To finish... I know you're not trying to talk shiat or anything like that, but some people here know their stuff... and if you're gonna argue against the contrary, you better know you're stuff and have the experience to back it up... a bit beyond asking everyone to take your word for it...


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Posts in this topic
- Justin   Celica STX   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:08 AM
- - Ale_lock   STX & GTX Not sure if there's anything more t...   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:41 AM
- - Kwanza26   They're the same... STX is just a dealer packa...   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:45 AM
- - Digndoug   your friends is full of sheat.. its just a dealer ...   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:46 AM
- - Justin   problem with that site is, is that his car is a 95...   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:47 AM
- - Justin   I almost forgot, his timing is advanced. I don...   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:49 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Justin @ Aug 23, 2004 - 5:47 AM) probl...   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:50 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Justin @ Aug 23, 2004 - 5:49 AM) I'm no...   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:53 AM
- - Justin   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Aug 23, 2004 - 5:53 AM) QUOTE (J...   Aug 23, 2004 - 12:56 AM
- - jmoneydtb   hey justin its james, "the supra mechanic...   Aug 23, 2004 - 1:23 PM
- - Coomer   Trust us...we live Celicas day in and day out...Th...   Aug 23, 2004 - 1:32 PM
- - jmoneydtb   sorry about the rant on the motors, i just saw som...   Aug 23, 2004 - 1:44 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (jmoneydtb @ Aug 23, 2004 - 11:44 AM) but i ...   Aug 23, 2004 - 1:50 PM
- - jmoneydtb   same guy that owns this apparently unusually fast ...   Aug 23, 2004 - 2:32 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (jmoneydtb @ Aug 23, 2004 - 12:32 PM) only t...   Aug 23, 2004 - 3:00 PM
- - blksp63supra   well I am bill, the guy with the supra mentioned a...   Aug 23, 2004 - 4:37 PM
- - Coomer   It's a V8 Mustang, right? If so, it may have s...   Aug 23, 2004 - 4:39 PM
- - blksp63supra   it was a v8 mustang and the guy drove it fine didn...   Aug 23, 2004 - 4:45 PM
- - dstrbcelica   tell this guy who has the stx to race the mustang ...   Aug 23, 2004 - 5:04 PM
- - macavely   we should get one of those guys that have an stx.....   Aug 23, 2004 - 5:16 PM
- - Ale_lock   Mr.Supra...quoting this from another forum & I...   Aug 23, 2004 - 5:22 PM
- - Coomer   QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 2:45 PM)...   Aug 23, 2004 - 5:33 PM
- - defgeph   BS a dealer loaded st-x w/ a cold air intake wi...   Aug 23, 2004 - 5:37 PM
- - 97sccelica   ever consider the fact that the mustang was not ra...   Aug 23, 2004 - 5:37 PM
- - Kwanza26   I think I'm gonna stop trying to explain shiat...   Aug 23, 2004 - 7:18 PM
- - macavely   this topic is getting ceazy .. let just take his w...   Aug 23, 2004 - 7:26 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (jmoneydtb @ Aug 23, 2004 - 6:23 PM) "q...   Aug 23, 2004 - 7:38 PM
- - Ale_lock   RE: Celica STX   Aug 23, 2004 - 7:45 PM
- - fastgt   i agree with kwanza completly(simply cuz he knows ...   Aug 23, 2004 - 8:30 PM
- - Justin   The stx did beat the stang gt though. They were ri...   Aug 23, 2004 - 8:53 PM
- - snadman   Its pretty simple. You lost torque by having an ex...   Aug 23, 2004 - 8:53 PM
- - fastgt   the only way that st beat the stang is if the v8 w...   Aug 23, 2004 - 9:02 PM
- - Ale_lock   QUOTE (Justin @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:53 PM) The stx di...   Aug 23, 2004 - 9:06 PM
- - blksp63supra   look just so you idiots know the stx did pull the ...   Aug 23, 2004 - 9:39 PM
- - Ale_lock   Dude, words are words. Show proof or just leave th...   Aug 23, 2004 - 9:49 PM
- - blksp63supra   and to 97sccelica he does have a gt4 celica we wil...   Aug 23, 2004 - 9:52 PM
- - defgeph   "What the hell is a Celica STX and GTX?...   Aug 23, 2004 - 10:30 PM
- - fastgt   QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 7:39 PM) look...   Aug 23, 2004 - 10:36 PM
- - Ale_lock   QUOTE (Meonspeed @ Aug 23, 2004 - 10:49 PM) Dude, ...   Aug 23, 2004 - 10:41 PM
- - rlan214   same engine teh only thing is that theres that bbs...   Aug 23, 2004 - 10:42 PM
- - dstrbcelica   like i said before, get those two guys to race eac...   Aug 23, 2004 - 11:00 PM
- - scorpian3243   HA!! I like it when people fight.   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:12 AM
- - jmoneydtb   look if you dont believe us...fine...we will get p...   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:19 AM
- - scorpian3243   Well ok people I tested it. My brother has a 98 mu...   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:23 AM
- - scorpian3243   Oh sorry she owns an STX (like there is a differen...   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:24 AM
- - scorpian3243   Oh and my brother has an 86 5.0 mustang and it ...   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:29 AM
- - spunky393   I got it guys!!! This 98 mustang GT g...   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:31 AM
- - scorpian3243   BTY I'm not starting ****. I am just impling t...   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:32 AM
- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:39 PM)...   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:50 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Mynzeyes @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:50 PM) QUOTE (b...   Aug 24, 2004 - 12:56 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   LMAO@! thats funny...... straight up funny, I ...   Aug 24, 2004 - 1:06 AM
- - macavely   QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:39 PM) look...   Aug 24, 2004 - 7:29 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 24, 2004 - 2:39 AM) look...   Aug 24, 2004 - 4:48 PM
- - scorpian3243   QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 24, 2004 - 2:39 AM)...   Aug 24, 2004 - 6:46 PM
- - MK153   I have an STX... I was playing around with a frien...   Sep 7, 2004 - 12:27 PM


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