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post Aug 29, 2004 - 2:52 PM
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I finally got to the track to run the car.
I babied it off the line(i got the 5s tranny) and i am only running 13 psi with 18" tires but overall i had good times.
1/4 mile times were at 14.4 and 14.5 the whole time
top speeds were 97 and 98 mph
i think if i run it again i am gonna put the stock 15" rims on and turn the boost to about 16-17 and see what happens!

I think 13's are easily within reach!
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post Aug 29, 2004 - 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 30, 2004 - 2:39 AM)
Secondly what does "your not going to see much gains after 10lbs on the CT26? Where the hell did you get this information from? Does all of a sudden the CFMs decrease after 10lbs? Does ne body actually know what CFMs actually mean or how they effect the turbo or are you looking at just pressure, which means less.

Super, don't gimmie that ****. After 10 psi, the CT26 turbo (non supra model) is out of it's prime efficiency range; you can see this by looking at a compressor graph for one (although; I have NOT seen a compressor graph for the CT26) it's a well known, well documented issue that I kept running into on MR2 boards.

Quite simply, he's not going to see much gain past 10 psi; because the turbo can't handle the additional air pressure on the compressor wheel. It's much like how in the 3000GTs, after 6000 rpms the stock boost controller drops the boost level.

The issue is SO important, and SO documented; that I made it my first topic in this post:

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14345

If you dyno tested the 3sgte at 8 psi, 9 psi, 10 psi, 11 psi; you'd see the gains you make by upping the boost level steadily drop; it's out of it's efficiency level.

Picking a turbo thats right for your efficiency level is pretty standard knowledge; for 15 psi the CT26 turbo is simply FAR removed from that.

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- DG_Performance   Ran my 3sgte at the track   Aug 29, 2004 - 2:52 PM
- - Supersprynt   Very nice, I went to the track with friends but di...   Aug 29, 2004 - 2:53 PM
- - DG_Performance   this run was with the stage 1 exedy clutch and sto...   Aug 29, 2004 - 2:57 PM
- - shid   stock ct26 turbo.. you're not gonna see much g...   Aug 29, 2004 - 3:05 PM
- - DG_Performance   why do you say that? do you have a 3s? i fe...   Aug 29, 2004 - 3:08 PM
- - XXX_Mina   i would raise boost to 15 psi, maybe add race gas ...   Aug 29, 2004 - 3:35 PM
- - lagos   good job dave!   Aug 29, 2004 - 5:02 PM
- - Hym3n   Be sure to throw in some C-16 in that bitch. -bri...   Aug 29, 2004 - 6:46 PM
- - Digndoug   wow, I figured that the celi would run faster then...   Aug 29, 2004 - 7:43 PM
- - Ryu3x16   wow...14.4- 14.5 is good... at what rpm did you l...   Aug 29, 2004 - 7:43 PM
- - SlowCelica94   I have a buddy with an mr2 who pushes 18psi on a s...   Aug 29, 2004 - 8:19 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   QUOTE (Digndoug @ Aug 30, 2004 - 12:43 AM) wow, I ...   Aug 29, 2004 - 8:57 PM
- - celica3sgte   You guys, be realistic. He's running the stoc...   Aug 29, 2004 - 9:19 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   QUOTE (celica3sgte @ Aug 30, 2004 - 2:19 AM) You g...   Aug 29, 2004 - 9:25 PM
- - Supersprynt   What you guys watch fast and furious? You do reali...   Aug 29, 2004 - 9:39 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (DamDirtyApes @ Aug 29, 2004 - 10:25 PM) QUO...   Aug 29, 2004 - 9:40 PM
- - DamDirtyApes   i dont expect my car to be fast. i just did the k...   Aug 29, 2004 - 9:52 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Dont boost to 15 untill you have a tranny than tak...   Aug 29, 2004 - 9:57 PM
- - shid   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 30, 2004 - 2:39 AM) Secon...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:13 PM
- - lagos   a swaped celica is not the fastest thing in the wo...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:18 PM
- - Coomer   That's awesome Dave! And yeah, mid-14s a...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:24 PM
- - XXX_Mina   looks like iam gonna have to finish up the last fe...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:29 PM
- - Digndoug   QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 30, 2004 - 3:18 AM) shid, i ...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:30 PM
- - DG_Performance   Thanks to celica3sgte, super, xxx, 5sfeturbo, lago...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:41 PM
- - shid   QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 30, 2004 - 3:18 AM) shid, i wi...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:43 PM
- - Supersprynt   CT26 Efficiency Read Read those. You have pitted e...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:54 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   WE ALL WIN!!! Lets focus on the 1/4 mi...   Aug 29, 2004 - 10:58 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (shid @ Aug 29, 2004 - 11:43 PM) QUOTE ...   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:04 PM
- - lagos   yeah shid, i know what you are trying to say, but ...   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:06 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Thank you for not making me ask what CFM meant.   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:07 PM
- - Doge   Shid not to be a jackass or anything but you have ...   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:08 PM
- - defgeph   good job dave ! put some slicks on those 15inc...   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:27 PM
- - Doge   Yeah i forgot to say great job dave. 13 seconds i...   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:31 PM
- - Supersprynt   I was at the track with a couple friends running t...   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:35 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Aug 29, 2004 - 6:57 PM) Remeber...   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:44 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Doge @ Aug 29, 2004 - 8:08 PM) Shid not to ...   Aug 29, 2004 - 11:47 PM
- - Doge   If you read that post that Super posted you'll...   Aug 30, 2004 - 3:42 AM
- - XXX_Mina   lol, how come my car ran 14.01 and it didnt bring ...   Aug 30, 2004 - 6:58 AM
- - Supersprynt   The SR20DET I believe has a bigger turbo than both...   Aug 30, 2004 - 7:10 AM
- - XXX_Mina   okay, only 1 engine soo far, not bad... Mina   Aug 30, 2004 - 7:12 AM
- - uzthedentist   just change the turbo man, youll regret it otherwi...   Aug 30, 2004 - 9:30 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 30, 2004 - 4:10 AM) The S...   Aug 30, 2004 - 10:23 AM
- - OrbitalGT95   props dave   Aug 30, 2004 - 10:38 AM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 30, 2004 - 11:23 AM) QUOTE...   Aug 30, 2004 - 10:47 AM
- - presure2   good job man...im sure with a harder launch and li...   Aug 30, 2004 - 10:55 AM
- - celica3sgte   When I ran at the track, boost levels from the ct2...   Aug 31, 2004 - 12:27 AM
- - FallenHero   yea, an old civic with the h22 swap would Probably...   Aug 31, 2004 - 6:13 PM
- - Ryu3x16   DG:: 13-16psi on a 3sgte w/ gt tranny? how much h...   Aug 31, 2004 - 8:23 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 30, 2004 - 7:47 AM) QUOTE...   Aug 31, 2004 - 8:29 PM
- - DG_Performance   i did not do anything special to the car to run it...   Sep 1, 2004 - 3:50 PM
- - Negative   QUOTE (DamDirtyApes @ Aug 30, 2004 - 2:25 AM) QUOT...   Sep 1, 2004 - 4:57 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (Negative @ Sep 1, 2004 - 9:57 PM) QUOTE (Da...   Sep 1, 2004 - 8:35 PM
- - slipgun   People would be talking differently if it was thei...   Sep 1, 2004 - 8:53 PM
- - Ryu3x16   QUOTE (slipgun @ Sep 1, 2004 - 6:53 PM) People wou...   Sep 2, 2004 - 1:09 AM
- - kdash   for all those thinking 14s is slow you guys are pr...   Sep 2, 2004 - 1:42 AM
- - uzthedentist   QUOTE I can say that the GT4/alltrac has too much ...   Sep 2, 2004 - 7:07 AM
- - Negative   QUOTE (uzthedentist @ Sep 2, 2004 - 12:07 PM) QUOT...   Sep 2, 2004 - 4:14 PM
- - Supersprynt   Your comparing a stock 135hp GT to a ST185 or ST20...   Sep 3, 2004 - 8:34 AM
- - brianforster   i know in maryland at the track if your under 14 s...   Sep 3, 2004 - 9:50 AM
- - BEEFSTEW800   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Sep 3, 2004 - 9:34 AM) I...   Sep 3, 2004 - 6:17 PM
- - uzthedentist   QUOTE Very true. The GT4 will out perform the GT2 ...   Sep 4, 2004 - 7:25 AM
- - Negative   QUOTE (BEEFSTEW800 @ Sep 3, 2004 - 11:17 PM) QUOTE...   Sep 8, 2004 - 11:03 AM
- - Negative   QUOTE (uzthedentist @ Sep 4, 2004 - 12:25 PM) then...   Sep 8, 2004 - 11:06 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (uzthedentist @ Sep 4, 2004 - 4:25 AM) then ...   Sep 8, 2004 - 12:27 PM
- - celicaboston1983   is 6th gen and 5th gen sway bar the same?   Sep 8, 2004 - 1:16 PM
- - playr158   my stock body roll isn't bad at all.....just l...   Sep 8, 2004 - 1:34 PM
- - Negative   QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 8, 2004 - 6:34 PM) celica co...   Sep 10, 2004 - 6:06 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Negative @ Sep 10, 2004 - 3:06 PM) QUOTE (p...   Sep 10, 2004 - 11:29 PM
- - XXX_Mina   uzthedentist , your car is not a coupe.. can the a...   Sep 11, 2004 - 1:49 AM
- - playr158   yea gt-4 came in hatchback only   Sep 11, 2004 - 4:16 AM
- - Negative   QUOTE (celicaboston1983 @ Sep 8, 2004 - 6:16 PM) i...   Sep 11, 2004 - 3:02 PM
- - ghostdog   QUOTE (XXX_Mina @ Sep 11, 2004 - 2:49 AM) uztheden...   Sep 11, 2004 - 3:35 PM
- - DG_Performance   Negative is right... the bar is deffinetly thicker...   Sep 11, 2004 - 7:46 PM
- - Andason   QUOTE (DG_Performance @ Aug 29, 2004 - 2:08 P...   Sep 11, 2004 - 8:07 PM
- - celicaboston1983   QUOTE (DG_Performance @ Sep 12, 2004 - 12:46 AM) N...   Sep 11, 2004 - 9:19 PM
- - Ryu3x16   QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 11, 2004 - 2:16 AM) yea gt-4...   Sep 11, 2004 - 9:42 PM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (celicaboston1983 @ Sep 12, 2004 - 2:19 AM) ...   Sep 12, 2004 - 3:04 PM
- - uzthedentist   QUOTE 'd love to - can I borrow your GT4? wink...   Sep 12, 2004 - 4:19 PM
- - Ryu3x16   thats it....my car's a coupe now..jk i honestl...   Sep 12, 2004 - 10:30 PM
- - boosted_K2   ok, back on topic. besides its technically a ...   Sep 13, 2004 - 1:41 PM


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